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"David SH" <whitepjsREMOVE_T…@aol.com> wrote in message <news:ad9285$ppv$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>… > Maybe this is why you’re the UK system is struggling. > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_2015000/2015056.stm

Exactly. People should use limited services responsibly. > But then I forgot, you seem, for some utterly incomprehensible reason, to > want to find out whether you have an incurable disease or not.

What has that got to do with it?

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On 1 Jun 2002 01:38:36 -0700, bonhillya…@fsmail.net (mister macphee) wrote: >"David SH" <whitepjsREMOVE_T…@aol.com> wrote in message <news:ad9285$ppv$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>… >> Maybe this is why you’re the UK system is struggling. >> But then I forgot, you seem, for some utterly incomprehensible reason, to >> want to find out whether you have an incurable disease or not. >What has that got to do with it?

I am tuning in late to this conversation, so I might be missing something. I find it utterly comprehensible to want to know if one does or does not have an incurable disease.  Among other things, it makes planning one’s future possible and, hence, how one should allocate available resources.  Does one take that dream trip now or can it wait a few years, for example.

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glad she isn’t mine either….we get along okay except when it comes to anything "medical"  i don’t bring things up anymore, not even my MS.  it just causes arguments. I think in the UK people regard their GP’s as god, they don’t ask questions like we do here, they are intimidated by the gp’s. my mom has a very deformed foot from when she broke it 30 years ago and it wasn’t treated [cannot remember why]  she is 80 years old and keeps trying to get a handicaped sticker for her car. she goes to the doctor and says it’s a problem with her feet, they hurt. her doc has never even said take your shoes off and lets look at your feet. !!! my mom is to intimidated to push it further. I would push my foot in her face if it was me. her doc says, well you walked in here okay. end of story… Joyce "David SH" <whitepjsREMOVE_T…@aol.com> wrote in message

news:ad5kdv$n05$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m glad your sister isn’t my GP, with MS friendly views like that. > Rgds > "Joyce Chilson" <j.chil…@attbi.com> wrote in message > news:UmsJ8.55819$ux5.73241@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net… > | i understand that you can go on a waiting list  "the amazing NHS waiting > | list that it" for an MRI if your GP seems to thing you need it.  I am not > in > | the UK but am british. I have a sister in the UK who is a GP, she told me > | and I quote "thier is no cure for MS so why would we waste money on MRI’s > | and medication !!!  "   she said …people need hip replacements more than > | we need to give useless medications for MS.   the NHS just breaks my heart > , > | the stories I hear when I visit the UK and what I see on TV is just > | heartbreaking. > | > | Joyce > | > | "mister macphee" <bonhillya…@fsmail.net> wrote in message > | news:7e4d04af.0205290901.e6e1172@posting.google.com… > | > What tests would you need for MS? How would you get them in the UK? My > | > GP says that I’m depressed (I’m not) or suggests that I’m a > | > hypochondriac (which is quite possible). > | > > | > But its my money; anyone got any idea how much full scans etc. would > | > cost privately? > | > |

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The UK’s GP system is incredible. A 5 minute appointment after a 2 week wait is what most people get from it. It’s not a Health system. — All the best John Fletcher

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Excuse my language, but that’s bollocks.  I’m not quite sure what else I can say to such ill-informed nonsense. Rgds "John Fletcher" <harvest%20this@%20abuse%40localhost%20.com> wrote in message news:6bwJ8.5130$7N.819692@news02.tsnz.net… | The UK’s GP system is incredible. | | A 5 minute appointment after a 2 week wait is what most people get from it. It’s not a Health system. | | — | | All the best | | John Fletcher | | | |

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I’m sorry, but that’s just nonsense.  GPs do a difficult job and are confronted by a huge range of conditions, from colds to cancer.  They are the first point of contact for most things medical, and IMHO do a very good job.  Yes they can be variable, but huge numbers offer decent advice, care and treatment.  Patients, irrespective of nationality, stupidly think doctors are gods.  You only have to look at some postings on this NG to see how rapidly patients run to them in the hope of salvation. Rgds "Joyce Chilson" <j.chil…@attbi.com> wrote in message

news:K%sJ8.119511$L76.200376@rwcrnsc53… | glad she isn’t mine either….we get along okay except when it comes to | anything "medical"  i don’t bring things up anymore, not even my MS.  it | just causes arguments. I think in the UK people regard their GP’s as god, | they don’t ask questions like we do here, they are intimidated by the gp’s. | my mom has a very deformed foot from when she broke it 30 years ago and it | wasn’t treated [cannot remember why]  she is 80 years old and keeps trying | to get a handicaped sticker for her car. she goes to the doctor and says | it’s a problem with her feet, they hurt. her doc has never even said take | your shoes off and lets look at your feet. !!! my mom is to intimidated to | push it further. I would push my foot in her face if it was me. her doc | says, well you walked in here okay. end of story… | | Joyce | | | "David SH" <whitepjsREMOVE_T…@aol.com> wrote in message | news:ad5kdv$n05$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk… | > I’m glad your sister isn’t my GP, with MS friendly views like that. | > | > Rgds | > | > | > "Joyce Chilson" <j.chil…@attbi.com> wrote in message | > news:UmsJ8.55819$ux5.73241@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net… | > | i understand that you can go on a waiting list  "the amazing NHS waiting | > | list that it" for an MRI if your GP seems to thing you need it.  I am | not | > in | > | the UK but am british. I have a sister in the UK who is a GP, she told | me | > | and I quote "thier is no cure for MS so why would we waste money on | MRI’s | > | and medication !!!  "   she said …people need hip replacements more | than | > | we need to give useless medications for MS.   the NHS just breaks my | heart | > , | > | the stories I hear when I visit the UK and what I see on TV is just | > | heartbreaking. | > | | > | Joyce | > | | > | "mister macphee" <bonhillya…@fsmail.net> wrote in message | > | news:7e4d04af.0205290901.e6e1172@posting.google.com… | > | > What tests would you need for MS? How would you get them in the UK? My | > | > GP says that I’m depressed (I’m not) or suggests that I’m a | > | > hypochondriac (which is quite possible). | > | > | > | > But its my money; anyone got any idea how much full scans etc. would | > | > cost privately? | > | | > | | > | > | |

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sorry I have to disagree, I have been their and done that…i can only post what I have seen first hand. okay I know they do their best with the limited options they have. it isn’t the gp’s fault as such, it is the lack of funds in the NHS. but I had a relapse while in the UK this winter, I am still british but prepared to pay for any treatment I would need. I still have my national health card and it’s up to date. I dragged myself off to my moms doctor and gave him the letter from my neuro here, the letter said in part, if I  had a exaserbation to give me 3 day solumedrol Iv treatment….he virtually laughed at me. I told him I was prepared to pay for the treatment. he basicly said the same as my sister the gp said.  we really don’t treat MS becuase their is no cure so we cannot fund the treatments which , and I quote "do not work" now I must say that i have had 2 GP’s tell me this, my sister and my moms doctor. maybe I am unlucky, I just had to stay in bed for 2 weeks. I also have a cousin in the UK with MS and she gets no treatment, she was told the same thing. she was told to try yoga and massage therapy. she is in a wheelchair. so thats all I can say, did not want to offend and I am sorry that I did, I am also glad your doctor and the NHS is all you expect it to be and are happy with that. I really am as I saw and heard so many heartbreaking stories on TV while in the UK I actually cried. you are one of the lucky ones and for that I am more than happy for you. Joyce "David SH" <whitepjsREMOVE_T…@aol.com> wrote in message

news:ad68p8$hvh$2@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m sorry, but that’s just nonsense.  GPs do a difficult job and are > confronted by a huge range of conditions, from colds to cancer.  They are > the first point of contact for most things medical, and IMHO do a very good > job.  Yes they can be variable, but huge numbers offer decent advice, care > and treatment.  Patients, irrespective of nationality, stupidly think > doctors are gods.  You only have to look at some postings on this NG to see > how rapidly patients run to them in the hope of salvation. > Rgds > "Joyce Chilson" <j.chil…@attbi.com> wrote in message > news:K%sJ8.119511$L76.200376@rwcrnsc53… > | glad she isn’t mine either….we get along okay except when it comes to > | anything "medical"  i don’t bring things up anymore, not even my MS.  it > | just causes arguments. I think in the UK people regard their GP’s as god, > | they don’t ask questions like we do here, they are intimidated by the > gp’s. > | my mom has a very deformed foot from when she broke it 30 years ago and it > | wasn’t treated [cannot remember why]  she is 80 years old and keeps trying > | to get a handicaped sticker for her car. she goes to the doctor and says > | it’s a problem with her feet, they hurt. her doc has never even said take > | your shoes off and lets look at your feet. !!! my mom is to intimidated to > | push it further. I would push my foot in her face if it was me. her doc > | says, well you walked in here okay. end of story… > | > | Joyce > | > | > | "David SH" <whitepjsREMOVE_T…@aol.com> wrote in message > | news:ad5kdv$n05$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk… > | > I’m glad your sister isn’t my GP, with MS friendly views like that. > | > > | > Rgds > | > > | > > | > "Joyce Chilson" <j.chil…@attbi.com> wrote in message > | > news:UmsJ8.55819$ux5.73241@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net… > | > | i understand that you can go on a waiting list  "the amazing NHS > waiting > | > | list that it" for an MRI if your GP seems to thing you need it.  I am > | not > | > in > | > | the UK but am british. I have a sister in the UK who is a GP, she told > | me > | > | and I quote "thier is no cure for MS so why would we waste money on > | MRI’s > | > | and medication !!!  "   she said …people need hip replacements more > | than > | > | we need to give useless medications for MS.   the NHS just breaks my > | heart > | > , > | > | the stories I hear when I visit the UK and what I see on TV is just > | > | heartbreaking. > | > | > | > | Joyce > | > | > | > | "mister macphee" <bonhillya…@fsmail.net> wrote in message > | > | news:7e4d04af.0205290901.e6e1172@posting.google.com… > | > | > What tests would you need for MS? How would you get them in the UK? > My > | > | > GP says that I’m depressed (I’m not) or suggests that I’m a > | > | > hypochondriac (which is quite possible). > | > | > > | > | > But its my money; anyone got any idea how much full scans etc. would > | > | > cost privately? > | > | > | > | > | > > | > > | > |

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expensive……yes    bloated…..possibly but over medicate.  At least the drs. in the US give their patients a chose of different options including if they want to take any medications or not instead of making up their minds for the patient by not even completing all the applicable tests and making a diagnoses! Silver – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -David SH wrote: > Maybe this is why you’re the UK system is struggling. > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_2015000/2015056.stm > If patients treated doctors and the NHS with any degree of respect, then > perhaps the system would work more efficiently.  It wouldn’t be perfect, but > name me a health system that is?  The US system seems to be bloated, > expensive and in the case of MS, over-zealous in its medication practices. > But then I forgot, you seem, for some utterly incomprehensible reason, to > want to find out whether you have an incurable disease or not. > Rgds > Rgds > "mister macphee" <bonhillya…@fsmail.net> wrote in message > news:7e4d04af.0205302348.578ac93a@posting.google.com… > | "David SH" <whitepjsREMOVE_T…@aol.com> wrote in message > <news:ad68p7$hvh$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>… > | > | > "John Fletcher" <harvest%20this@%20abuse%40localhost%20.com> wrote in > | > message news:6bwJ8.5130$7N.819692@news02.tsnz.net… > | > | The UK’s GP system is incredible. > | > | > | > | A 5 minute appointment after a 2 week wait is what most people get > from > | >  it. It’s not a Health system. > | > | > Excuse my language, but that’s bollocks.  I’m not quite sure what else I > can > | > say to such ill-informed nonsense. > | > | I have to say that that is my experience of GPs. It takes 10 days to > | get an appointment here, and that’s only if you are willing to take > | time off work. If you want an appointment after 4pm you are talking a > | 2 week wait. > | > | As someone who rarely uses a GP, as I just havent got the time, I > | would much prefer an American type system, where you pay insurance. > | This might also encourage people to stay fit and live healthily, and > | use their doctor’s services correctly (otherwise their insurance > | premiums would go up).

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David…what if nothing is available.???  what if you are treated with a satisfied "smirk" on the face of the doctor. sorry you will never convince me the NHS is the best. my god it has been proven, don’t you watch TV in the UK ??   don’t want to start a flame war so I am taking a break from  the group. I do know of what I speak, and if you are refering to ME as the "foreignor" I am not no such thing, I have dual nationality.  I have what I consider the best medical treatment in the world, I have my neuro who is like a friend, first name basis as with all my specialists. we are just more casual in our ways here. I am happy and content, I spend 8 months of the year here and 4 months in the UK [every year]   I am always terrified I will end up in a UK hospital, so sorry David I cannot help how I feel and you and everyone is entitled to their opinions. I wish you well, I wish you health, and I wish you happiness. Joyce "David SH" <whitepjsREMOVE_T…@aol.com> wrote in message

news:ad9286$ppv$2@news8.svr.pol.co.uk… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Quite, and continual horror stories don’t exactly help the situation. Huge > numbers of people are treated competently and correctly.  An intolerably > large number aren’t, but the constant carping and whining by those who > consider healthcare akin to a visit to McDonalds, where you get exactly what > you want, when you want it, doesn’t improve the situation. > Besides which, if I were a ‘foreigner’ in some country, I’d not presume that > I’d be given the medication my own doctor thought was best.  I’d get by with > what was available in that country.  But that’s perhaps a cultural > difference. > Rgds > "Fiona" <Fiona@?.com> wrote in message > news:ad7vgi$gq$1@knossos.btinternet.com… > | > | "Joyce Chilson" <j.chil…@attbi.com> wrote in message > | news:XVxJ8.57912$ux5.74189@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net… > | > sorry I have to disagree, I have been their and done that…i can only > | post > | > what I have seen first hand. okay I know they do their best with the > | limited > | > options they have. it isn’t the gp’s fault as such, it is the lack of > | funds > | > in the NHS. but I had a relapse while in the UK this winter, I am still > | > british but prepared to pay for any treatment I would need. I still have > | my > | > national health card and it’s up to date. > | > > | > I dragged myself off to my moms doctor and gave him the letter from my > | neuro > | > here, the letter said in part, if I  had a exaserbation to give me 3 day > | > solumedrol Iv treatment….he virtually laughed at me. I told him I was > | > prepared to pay for the treatment. he basicly said the same as my sister > | the > | > gp said.  we really don’t treat MS becuase their is no cure so we cannot > | > fund the treatments which , and I quote "do not work" > | > > | > now I must say that i have had 2 GP’s tell me this, my sister and my > moms > | > doctor. maybe I am unlucky, I just had to stay in bed for 2 weeks. I > also > | > have a cousin in the UK with MS and she gets no treatment, she was told > | the > | > same thing. she was told to try yoga and massage therapy. she is in a > | > wheelchair. > | > > | > so thats all I can say, did not want to offend and I am sorry that I > did, > | I > | > am also glad your doctor and the NHS is all you expect it to be and are > | > happy with that. I really am as I saw and heard so many heartbreaking > | > stories on TV while in the UK I actually cried. you are one of the lucky > | > ones and for that I am more than happy for you. > | > > | > Joyce > | > > | Still with David on this – you have to remember that happy stories do not > | make good news or sell newspapers … > | > |

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Quite, and continual horror stories don’t exactly help the situation.  Huge numbers of people are treated competently and correctly.  An intolerably large number aren’t, but the constant carping and whining by those who consider healthcare akin to a visit to McDonalds, where you get exactly what you want, when you want it, doesn’t improve the situation. Besides which, if I were a ‘foreigner’ in some country, I’d not presume that I’d be given the medication my own doctor thought was best.  I’d get by with what was available in that country.  But that’s perhaps a cultural difference. Rgds "Fiona" <Fiona@?.com> wrote in message

news:ad7vgi$gq$1@knossos.btinternet.com… | | "Joyce Chilson" <j.chil…@attbi.com> wrote in message | news:XVxJ8.57912$ux5.74189@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net… | > sorry I have to disagree, I have been their and done that…i can only | post | > what I have seen first hand. okay I know they do their best with the | limited | > options they have. it isn’t the gp’s fault as such, it is the lack of | funds | > in the NHS. but I had a relapse while in the UK this winter, I am still | > british but prepared to pay for any treatment I would need. I still have | my | > national health card and it’s up to date. | > | > I dragged myself off to my moms doctor and gave him the letter from my | neuro | > here, the letter said in part, if I  had a exaserbation to give me 3 day | > solumedrol Iv treatment….he virtually laughed at me. I told him I was | > prepared to pay for the treatment. he basicly said the same as my sister | the | > gp said.  we really don’t treat MS becuase their is no cure so we cannot | > fund the treatments which , and I quote "do not work" | > | > now I must say that i have had 2 GP’s tell me this, my sister and my moms | > doctor. maybe I am unlucky, I just had to stay in bed for 2 weeks. I also | > have a cousin in the UK with MS and she gets no treatment, she was told | the | > same thing. she was told to try yoga and massage therapy. she is in a | > wheelchair. | > | > so thats all I can say, did not want to offend and I am sorry that I did, | I | > am also glad your doctor and the NHS is all you expect it to be and are | > happy with that. I really am as I saw and heard so many heartbreaking | > stories on TV while in the UK I actually cried. you are one of the lucky | > ones and for that I am more than happy for you. | > | > Joyce | > | Still with David on this – you have to remember that happy stories do not | make good news or sell newspapers … | |

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Maybe this is why you’re the UK system is struggling. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_2015000/2015056.stm If patients treated doctors and the NHS with any degree of respect, then perhaps the system would work more efficiently.  It wouldn’t be perfect, but name me a health system that is?  The US system seems to be bloated, expensive and in the case of MS, over-zealous in its medication practices. But then I forgot, you seem, for some utterly incomprehensible reason, to want to find out whether you have an incurable disease or not. Rgds Rgds "mister macphee" <bonhillya…@fsmail.net> wrote in message

news:7e4d04af.0205302348.578ac93a@posting.google.com… | "David SH" <whitepjsREMOVE_T…@aol.com> wrote in message <news:ad68p7$hvh$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>… | | > "John Fletcher" <harvest%20this@%20abuse%40localhost%20.com> wrote in | > message news:6bwJ8.5130$7N.819692@news02.tsnz.net… | > | The UK’s GP system is incredible. | > | | > | A 5 minute appointment after a 2 week wait is what most people get from | >  it. It’s not a Health system. | | > Excuse my language, but that’s bollocks.  I’m not quite sure what else I can | > say to such ill-informed nonsense. | | I have to say that that is my experience of GPs. It takes 10 days to | get an appointment here, and that’s only if you are willing to take | time off work. If you want an appointment after 4pm you are talking a | 2 week wait. | | As someone who rarely uses a GP, as I just havent got the time, I | would much prefer an American type system, where you pay insurance. | This might also encourage people to stay fit and live healthily, and | use their doctor’s services correctly (otherwise their insurance | premiums would go up).

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -mister macphee wrote: > "David SH" <whitepjsREMOVE_T…@aol.com> wrote in message <news:ad68p7$hvh$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>… > > "John Fletcher" <harvest%20this@%20abuse%40localhost%20.com> wrote in > > message news:6bwJ8.5130$7N.819692@news02.tsnz.net… > > | The UK’s GP system is incredible. > > | > > | A 5 minute appointment after a 2 week wait is what most people get from > >  it. It’s not a Health system. > > Excuse my language, but that’s bollocks.  I’m not quite sure what else I can > > say to such ill-informed nonsense. > I have to say that that is my experience of GPs. It takes 10 days to > get an appointment here, and that’s only if you are willing to take > time off work. If you want an appointment after 4pm you are talking a > 2 week wait. > As someone who rarely uses a GP, as I just havent got the time, I > would much prefer an American type system, where you pay insurance. > This might also encourage people to stay fit and live healthily, and > use their doctor’s services correctly (otherwise their insurance > premiums would go up).

The American system isn’t perfect either. Many of us have to take time off work to see a dr, types of coverage vary and determines the type of dr we see & care we receive, plus it’s expensive. I’ll bet many of the uninsured Americans would rather wait 2 weeks to see a dr than to not be able to see one at all. Staying fit, living healthily, & using doctor’s services correctly would be best for each persons own quality of life. Would this prevent increases in insurance premiums? I don’t know. I doubt it would as insurers  provide for the shareholders 1st. My insurance is going up next month to $625….and the letter said there would be another increase next year for anyone over 60. There will be a day (near future) when I’ll join the huge group of uninsured. Carole

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"David SH" <whitepjsREMOVE_T…@aol.com> wrote in message <news:ad68p7$hvh$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>… > "John Fletcher" <harvest%20this@%20abuse%40localhost%20.com> wrote in > message news:6bwJ8.5130$7N.819692@news02.tsnz.net… > | The UK’s GP system is incredible. > | > | A 5 minute appointment after a 2 week wait is what most people get from >  it. It’s not a Health system. > Excuse my language, but that’s bollocks.  I’m not quite sure what else I can > say to such ill-informed nonsense.

I have to say that that is my experience of GPs. It takes 10 days to get an appointment here, and that’s only if you are willing to take time off work. If you want an appointment after 4pm you are talking a 2 week wait. As someone who rarely uses a GP, as I just havent got the time, I would much prefer an American type system, where you pay insurance. This might also encourage people to stay fit and live healthily, and use their doctor’s services correctly (otherwise their insurance premiums would go up).

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"mister macphee" <bonhillya…@fsmail.net> wrote in message

news:7e4d04af.0205302348.578ac93a@posting.google.com… > "David SH" <whitepjsREMOVE_T…@aol.com> wrote in message

<news:ad68p7$hvh$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > "John Fletcher" <harvest%20this@%20abuse%40localhost%20.com> wrote in > > message news:6bwJ8.5130$7N.819692@news02.tsnz.net… > > | The UK’s GP system is incredible. > > | > > | A 5 minute appointment after a 2 week wait is what most people get from > >  it. It’s not a Health system. > > Excuse my language, but that’s bollocks.  I’m not quite sure what else I can > > say to such ill-informed nonsense. > I have to say that that is my experience of GPs. It takes 10 days to > get an appointment here, and that’s only if you are willing to take > time off work. If you want an appointment after 4pm you are talking a > 2 week wait. > As someone who rarely uses a GP, as I just havent got the time, I > would much prefer an American type system, where you pay insurance. > This might also encourage people to stay fit and live healthily, and > use their doctor’s services correctly (otherwise their insurance > premiums would go up).

Sorry – I’m with David on this one. I’ve had MS for over twenty years and, maybe I’ve just been fortunate in my GPs, but I can’t fault them. A US system would never work in this country.

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"Joyce Chilson" <j.chil…@attbi.com> wrote in message

news:XVxJ8.57912$ux5.74189@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> sorry I have to disagree, I have been their and done that…i can only post > what I have seen first hand. okay I know they do their best with the limited > options they have. it isn’t the gp’s fault as such, it is the lack of funds > in the NHS. but I had a relapse while in the UK this winter, I am still > british but prepared to pay for any treatment I would need. I still have my > national health card and it’s up to date. > I dragged myself off to my moms doctor and gave him the letter from my neuro > here, the letter said in part, if I  had a exaserbation to give me 3 day > solumedrol Iv treatment….he virtually laughed at me. I told him I was > prepared to pay for the treatment. he basicly said the same as my sister the > gp said.  we really don’t treat MS becuase their is no cure so we cannot > fund the treatments which , and I quote "do not work" > now I must say that i have had 2 GP’s tell me this, my sister and my moms > doctor. maybe I am unlucky, I just had to stay in bed for 2 weeks. I also > have a cousin in the UK with MS and she gets no treatment, she was told the > same thing. she was told to try yoga and massage therapy. she is in a > wheelchair. > so thats all I can say, did not want to offend and I am sorry that I did, I > am also glad your doctor and the NHS is all you expect it to be and are > happy with that. I really am as I saw and heard so many heartbreaking > stories on TV while in the UK I actually cried. you are one of the lucky > ones and for that I am more than happy for you. > Joyce

Still with David on this – you have to remember that happy stories do not make good news or sell newspapers …

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What tests would you need for MS? How would you get them in the UK? My GP says that I’m depressed (I’m not) or suggests that I’m a hypochondriac (which is quite possible). But its my money; anyone got any idea how much full scans etc. would cost privately?

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I was told that a private MRI would cost between