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2nd RFD: soc.senior.* hierarchy
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RESULT unmoderated group soc.senior.health+fitness passes 140:31 unmoderated group soc.senior.issues passes 138:33 unmoderated group soc.senior.marketplace fails 127:39 soc.senior groups results – 175 valid votes Yes No | 2/3 100 | Pass | Group 140 31 | Yes Yes | Yes | soc.senior.health+fitness 138 33 | Yes Yes | Yes | soc.senior.issues 127 39 | Yes No | No | soc.senior.marketplace 1 invalid ballot Newsgroups lines: soc.senior.health+fitness Health, fitness, health-care for seniors. soc.senior.issues Issues relevant to seniors and aging. soc.senior.marketplace Ads for senior related goods and services. The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 7 Oct 1997. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. RATIONALE: all groups The term "seniors," used throughout this RFD, refers to persons of advanced years who acknowledge their status as seniors and also persons who anticipate reaching senior status and therefore are interested in those senior-related subjects that will soon become important to them. This newsgroup hierarchy is intended to fill a need for specific senior-related newsgroups not otherwise available on Usenet. Information about healthcare and medical services is available on the World Wide Web and in the various Senior Chats, but there are no topically oriented forums where seniors can get together to share experiences and concerns. One cannot fully understand aging unless one has been there. Newsgroups that discuss fitness, health, and general issues exist across Usenet, but their memberships and perspectives are predominantly youth-oriented. For example, health has very different meanings for a 30-year-old and an 80-year-old. Seniors who have decided that their continuing good health depends, in part, on maintaining a reasonably high level of physical (and mental) activity, need to know what is reasonable and expected for one’s age and condition, and which activities are best suited for them. They cannot very well ask these questions of the youngsters on an aerobics, fitness, walking, weight lifting, running or bicycling newsgroup, but they can ask questions of each other, and of concerned professionals, in their own senior-oriented newsgroups It could very well be that seniors have many of the same concerns as everyone else, but the prospect of limited remaining years makes those concerns more urgent. We’re easier marks for health fads and scams because of those concerns. That in itself is an obvious subject for discussion and warnings. A senior newsgroup hierarchy would permit seniors to have their own focussed arenas for discussion and exchange of ideas and experiences. The deliberate inclusion of the term "senior" in the name makes it possible for a senior to do a "find" on the list of all newsgroups and find something other than high school seniors. RATIONALE: soc.senior.health+fitness A senior, seeking to select and maintain a fitness program in order to gain a better quality of life or fight off the inevitable effects of aging, needs to be able to compare and evaluate the various alternatives available to the aging active person. No newsgroup of younger people can provide as good an evaluation as other seniors who know, first hand, the abilities and potential problems of seniors. The bodies that seniors have to live with are different than the body of a 30 to 45 year old person. The questions of metabolism, flexibility, coordination, weight control, nutrition, etc. when applied to older persons require special interpretation so that the information can be useful to seniors. Soc.senior.health+fitness can naturally invite comparisons of activities with respect to seniors’ age-related abilities and desired goals, which for most seniors will be different from the desired goals of younger athletes. Seniors with experience in various areas can help counsel whether limitations or prohibitions should apply. The same rationale applies to seniors concerned about maintaining general good health and providing good nutrition for themselves. As people age, their bodies change, and seniors who need to change their diets accordingly would welcome the chance to discuss this with other seniors and practitioners in the field. This newsgroup intends to provide a place on Usenet where seniors can talk to each other freely and sensitively about their health concerns, and get answers to their questions about their health and about health-care faciltiies from trained professionals or seniors experientially qualified to advise. RATIONALE: soc.senior.issues A wide variety of subjects, some generally covered in existing newsgroups, would be broached and discussed specifically as they relate to and impact on seniors. For example, parenting does not stop when children leave the nest, yet no existing groups discuss this issue from the perspective of the elderly parent or grandparent. Many seniors find that they must take care of their own aging parents in a role reversal that can be wrenching as well as difficult, while other seniors find themselves assuming the caregiver role in regard to their children’s children. Seniors need and want contact with each other to share ideas and experiences regarding these kinds of family matters. Many general issues, that have senior perspectives, are listed in the Charter of soc.senior.issues, as appropriate subjects for articles. Seniors need their own place to discuss these concerns from their own point of view. RATIONALE: soc.senior.marketplace All other groups in the soc.senior hierarchy have a prohibition against advertisments, as most subscribers do not want to have unwanted ads swamping their favorite newsgroup. However, many seniors need to be aware of various alternatives for, and gain information about, activities necessary for fitness, planning and facilities for health care, investing and planning for retirement, investigating potential retirement locations, and other matters or announcements that might be presented by commercial interests, and private or public agencies. These seniors want the opportunity to see advertisements and to have these ads available to other seniors as well, so that any volunteer advisers can evaluate and assist. Soc.senior.marketplace will also provide a place for seniors to trade with each other. CHARTER: soc.senior.health+fitness Soc.senior.health+fitness deals with all aspects of health and health- care that are central to the aging process, including the relationships between mental, emotional, and physical wellbeing. All subjects pertaining to mental and physical health, nutrition, health-care and health-care facilities as they pertain to seniors are suitable for this group. Some examples of appropriate topics: – information about and experiences with various kinds of health-care and health-care facilities; – discussions of the effect of mental attitude on physical well-being; – symptoms of depression and methods of treatment; – reviews of resources materials (published material, links to relevant websites and newsgroups); – general and specific coping skills for the many various illnesses associated with aging. Of course, the usual admonition is to seek professional services and not rely solely on the given advice. All activities that seniors may consider to promote fitness are suitable for discussion on this group. Some examples of appropriate topics: — aerobics, yoga, walking, running, bicycling, swimming, stationary bicycles and treadmills, weight lifting, Nautilus or Soloflex type of equipment activity, and sports of all kinds including information on senior leagues; — precautions and advice concerning potential injuries arising from participation in the above activities. Participation in the discussions by therapists and doctors is welcome. Guidelines based on previous levels of activities, conditions of health, doctor’s advice, reasonable expectations, opportunities for enjoying an activity or associated social contacts can be offered and discussed. Absolutely no form of advertising is allowed. The posting of a newsletter or newsletter excerpt containing a solicitation, or clearly intended to create interest in a newsletter is considered an advertisement, even in cases of free newsletters (email or otherwise). Likewise a posting whose sole legitimate purpose is to notify people of a Web page or other on-line source (ftp site, etc.) of a for-profit business is considered an advertisement. However, inclusion of one such pointer in a signature line of an otherwise substantive, acceptable posting, or in independently posted FAQs, is not considered advertising. END CHARTER. CHARTER: soc.senior.issues Soc.senior.issues is intended to be a general discussion area for seniors. Any topic from the full range of human interests and concerns may be posted here, providing that the topic: 1) is germane to seniors, and 2) is not in the province of other soc.senior newsgroups. Discussions of societal, political, and generational issues are suitable. For example, such discussions might cover: – experiences of being a senior in a youth-oriented society; – myths about, problems of, and adjustments to aging; – family relationships and changing roles for grandparents; – the need to become caregivers for aging parents; – questions of competence in such areas as driving; – proposed and existing legislation that affects seniors; – social services in local communities; – volunteering opportunities and experiences; – employment opportunities and second careers; – historical and experiential perspectives on life, culture, society. Seniors, family caregivers, and professionals in … read more »
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LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group soc.senior.health+fitness unmoderated group soc.senior.issues unmoderated group soc.senior.marketplace This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker. It is not to be posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by the votetaker. Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid. Newsgroups lines: soc.senior.health+fitness Health, fitness, health-care for seniors. soc.senior.issues Issues relevant to seniors and aging. soc.senior.marketplace Ads for senior related goods and services. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 7 Oct 1997. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. RATIONALE: all groups The term "seniors," used throughout this RFD, refers to persons of advanced years who acknowledge their status as seniors and also persons who anticipate reaching senior status and therefore are interested in those senior-related subjects that will soon become important to them. This newsgroup hierarchy is intended to fill a need for specific senior-related newsgroups not otherwise available on Usenet. Information about healthcare and medical services is available on the World Wide Web and in the various Senior Chats, but there are no topically oriented forums where seniors can get together to share experiences and concerns. One cannot fully understand aging unless one has been there. Newsgroups that discuss fitness, health, and general issues exist across Usenet, but their memberships and perspectives are predominantly youth-oriented. For example, health has very different meanings for a 30-year-old and an 80-year-old. Seniors who have decided that their continuing good health depends, in part, on maintaining a reasonably high level of physical (and mental) activity, need to know what is reasonable and expected for one’s age and condition, and which activities are best suited for them. They cannot very well ask these questions of the youngsters on an aerobics, fitness, walking, weight lifting, running or bicycling newsgroup, but they can ask questions of each other, and of concerned professionals, in their own senior-oriented newsgroups It could very well be that seniors have many of the same concerns as everyone else, but the prospect of limited remaining years makes those concerns more urgent. We’re easier marks for health fads and scams because of those concerns. That in itself is an obvious subject for discussion and warnings. A senior newsgroup hierarchy would permit seniors to have their own focussed arenas for discussion and exchange of ideas and experiences. The deliberate inclusion of the term "senior" in the name makes it possible for a senior to do a "find" on the list of all newsgroups and find something other than high school seniors. RATIONALE: soc.senior.health+fitness A senior, seeking to select and maintain a fitness program in order to gain a better quality of life or fight off the inevitable effects of aging, needs to be able to compare and evaluate the various alternatives available to the aging active person. No newsgroup of younger people can provide as good an evaluation as other seniors who know, first hand, the abilities and potential problems of seniors. The bodies that seniors have to live with are different than the body of a 30 to 45 year old person. The questions of metabolism, flexibility, coordination, weight control, nutrition, etc. when applied to older persons require special interpretation so that the information can be useful to seniors. Soc.senior.health+fitness can naturally invite comparisons of activities with respect to seniors’ age-related abilities and desired goals, which for most seniors will be different from the desired goals of younger athletes. Seniors with experience in various areas can help counsel whether limitations or prohibitions should apply. The same rationale applies to seniors concerned about maintaining general good health and providing good nutrition for themselves. As people age, their bodies change, and seniors who need to change their diets accordingly would welcome the chance to discuss this with other seniors and practitioners in the field. This newsgroup intends to provide a place on Usenet where seniors can talk to each other freely and sensitively about their health concerns, and get answers to their questions about their health and about health-care faciltiies from trained professionals or seniors experientially qualified to advise. RATIONALE: soc.senior.issues A wide variety of subjects, some generally covered in existing newsgroups, would be broached and discussed specifically as they relate to and impact on seniors. For example, parenting does not stop when children leave the nest, yet no existing groups discuss this issue from the perspective of the elderly parent or grandparent. Many seniors find that they must take care of their own aging parents in a role reversal that can be wrenching as well as difficult, while other seniors find themselves assuming the caregiver role in regard to their children’s children. Seniors need and want contact with each other to share ideas and experiences regarding these kinds of family matters. Many general issues, that have senior perspectives, are listed in the Charter of soc.senior.issues, as appropriate subjects for articles. Seniors need their own place to discuss these concerns from their own point of view. RATIONALE: soc.senior.marketplace All other groups in the soc.senior hierarchy have a prohibition against advertisments, as most subscribers do not want to have unwanted ads swamping their favorite newsgroup. However, many seniors need to be aware of various alternatives for, and gain information about, activities necessary for fitness, planning and facilities for health care, investing and planning for retirement, investigating potential retirement locations, and other matters or announcements that might be presented by commercial interests, and private or public agencies. These seniors want the opportunity to see advertisements and to have these ads available to other seniors as well, so that any volunteer advisers can evaluate and assist. Soc.senior.marketplace will also provide a place for seniors to trade with each other. CHARTER: soc.senior.health+fitness Soc.senior.health+fitness deals with all aspects of health and health- care that are central to the aging process, including the relationships between mental, emotional, and physical wellbeing. All subjects pertaining to mental and physical health, nutrition, health-care and health-care facilities as they pertain to seniors are suitable for this group. Some examples of appropriate topics: – information about and experiences with various kinds of health-care and health-care facilities; – discussions of the effect of mental attitude on physical well-being; – symptoms of depression and methods of treatment; – reviews of resources materials (published material, links to relevant websites and newsgroups); – general and specific coping skills for the many various illnesses associated with aging. Of course, the usual admonition is to seek professional services and not rely solely on the given advice. All activities that seniors may consider to promote fitness are suitable for discussion on this group. Some examples of appropriate topics: — aerobics, yoga, walking, running, bicycling, swimming, stationary bicycles and treadmills, weight lifting, Nautilus or Soloflex type of equipment activity, and sports of all kinds including information on senior leagues; — precautions and advice concerning potential injuries arising from participation in the above activities. Participation in the discussions by therapists and doctors is welcome. Guidelines based on previous levels of activities, conditions of health, doctor’s advice, reasonable expectations, opportunities for enjoying an activity or associated social contacts can be offered and discussed. Absolutely no form of advertising is allowed. The posting of a newsletter or newsletter excerpt containing a solicitation, or clearly intended to create interest in a newsletter is considered an advertisement, even in cases of free newsletters (email or otherwise). Likewise a posting whose sole legitimate purpose is to notify people of a Web page or other on-line source (ftp site, etc.) of a for-profit business is considered an advertisement. However, inclusion of one such pointer in a signature line of an otherwise substantive, acceptable posting, or in independently posted FAQs, is not considered advertising. END CHARTER. CHARTER: soc.senior.issues Soc.senior.issues is intended to be a general discussion area for seniors. Any topic from the full range of human interests and concerns may be posted here, providing that the topic: 1) is germane to seniors, and 2) is not in the province of other soc.senior newsgroups. Discussions of societal, political, and generational issues are suitable. For example, such discussions might cover: – experiences of being a senior in a youth-oriented society; – myths about, problems of, and adjustments to aging; – family relationships and changing roles for grandparents; – the need to become caregivers for aging parents; – questions of competence in such areas as driving; – proposed and existing legislation that affects seniors; – social services in local communities; – volunteering opportunities and experiences; – employment opportunities and second careers; – historical and experiential perspectives on life, culture, society. Seniors, family caregivers, and professionals in the field are all encouraged to post to the group and help make it a pleasant place to be. Thoughtful and civil … read more »
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group soc.senior.health+fitness unmoderated group soc.senior.issues unmoderated group soc.senior.marketplace This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker. It is not to be posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by the votetaker. Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid. Newsgroups lines: soc.senior.health+fitness Health, fitness, health-care for seniors. soc.senior.issues Issues relevant to seniors and aging. soc.senior.marketplace Ads for senior related goods and services. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 7 Oct 1997. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. RATIONALE: all groups The term "seniors," used throughout this RFD, refers to persons of advanced years who acknowledge their status as seniors and also persons who anticipate reaching senior status and therefore are interested in those senior-related subjects that will soon become important to them. This newsgroup hierarchy is intended to fill a need for specific senior-related newsgroups not otherwise available on Usenet. Information about healthcare and medical services is available on the World Wide Web and in the various Senior Chats, but there are no topically oriented forums where seniors can get together to share experiences and concerns. One cannot fully understand aging unless one has been there. Newsgroups that discuss fitness, health, and general issues exist across Usenet, but their memberships and perspectives are predominantly youth-oriented. For example, health has very different meanings for a 30-year-old and an 80-year-old. Seniors who have decided that their continuing good health depends, in part, on maintaining a reasonably high level of physical (and mental) activity, need to know what is reasonable and expected for one’s age and condition, and which activities are best suited for them. They cannot very well ask these questions of the youngsters on an aerobics, fitness, walking, weight lifting, running or bicycling newsgroup, but they can ask questions of each other, and of concerned professionals, in their own senior-oriented newsgroups It could very well be that seniors have many of the same concerns as everyone else, but the prospect of limited remaining years makes those concerns more urgent. We’re easier marks for health fads and scams because of those concerns. That in itself is an obvious subject for discussion and warnings. A senior newsgroup hierarchy would permit seniors to have their own focussed arenas for discussion and exchange of ideas and experiences. The deliberate inclusion of the term "senior" in the name makes it possible for a senior to do a "find" on the list of all newsgroups and find something other than high school seniors. RATIONALE: soc.senior.health+fitness A senior, seeking to select and maintain a fitness program in order to gain a better quality of life or fight off the inevitable effects of aging, needs to be able to compare and evaluate the various alternatives available to the aging active person. No newsgroup of younger people can provide as good an evaluation as other seniors who know, first hand, the abilities and potential problems of seniors. The bodies that seniors have to live with are different than the body of a 30 to 45 year old person. The questions of metabolism, flexibility, coordination, weight control, nutrition, etc. when applied to older persons require special interpretation so that the information can be useful to seniors. Soc.senior.health+fitness can naturally invite comparisons of activities with respect to seniors’ age-related abilities and desired goals, which for most seniors will be different from the desired goals of younger athletes. Seniors with experience in various areas can help counsel whether limitations or prohibitions should apply. The same rationale applies to seniors concerned about maintaining general good health and providing good nutrition for themselves. As people age, their bodies change, and seniors who need to change their diets accordingly would welcome the chance to discuss this with other seniors and practitioners in the field. This newsgroup intends to provide a place on Usenet where seniors can talk to each other freely and sensitively about their health concerns, and get answers to their questions about their health and about health-care faciltiies from trained professionals or seniors experientially qualified to advise. RATIONALE: soc.senior.issues A wide variety of subjects, some generally covered in existing newsgroups, would be broached and discussed specifically as they relate to and impact on seniors. For example, parenting does not stop when children leave the nest, yet no existing groups discuss this issue from the perspective of the elderly parent or grandparent. Many seniors find that they must take care of their own aging parents in a role reversal that can be wrenching as well as difficult, while other seniors find themselves assuming the caregiver role in regard to their children’s children. Seniors need and want contact with each other to share ideas and experiences regarding these kinds of family matters. Many general issues, that have senior perspectives, are listed in the Charter of soc.senior.issues, as appropriate subjects for articles. Seniors need their own place to discuss these concerns from their own point of view. RATIONALE: soc.senior.marketplace All other groups in the soc.senior hierarchy have a prohibition against advertisments, as most subscribers do not want to have unwanted ads swamping their favorite newsgroup. However, many seniors need to be aware of various alternatives for, and gain information about, activities necessary for fitness, planning and facilities for health care, investing and planning for retirement, investigating potential retirement locations, and other matters or announcements that might be presented by commercial interests, and private or public agencies. These seniors want the opportunity to see advertisements and to have these ads available to other seniors as well, so that any volunteer advisers can evaluate and assist. Soc.senior.marketplace will also provide a place for seniors to trade with each other. CHARTER: soc.senior.health+fitness Soc.senior.health+fitness deals with all aspects of health and health- care that are central to the aging process, including the relationships between mental, emotional, and physical wellbeing. All subjects pertaining to mental and physical health, nutrition, health-care and health-care facilities as they pertain to seniors are suitable for this group. Some examples of appropriate topics: – information about and experiences with various kinds of health-care and health-care facilities; – discussions of the effect of mental attitude on physical well-being; – symptoms of depression and methods of treatment; – reviews of resources materials (published material, links to relevant websites and newsgroups); – general and specific coping skills for the many various illnesses associated with aging. Of course, the usual admonition is to seek professional services and not rely solely on the given advice. All activities that seniors may consider to promote fitness are suitable for discussion on this group. Some examples of appropriate topics: — aerobics, yoga, walking, running, bicycling, swimming, stationary bicycles and treadmills, weight lifting, Nautilus or Soloflex type of equipment activity, and sports of all kinds including information on senior leagues; — precautions and advice concerning potential injuries arising from participation in the above activities. Participation in the discussions by therapists and doctors is welcome. Guidelines based on previous levels of activities, conditions of health, doctor’s advice, reasonable expectations, opportunities for enjoying an activity or associated social contacts can be offered and discussed. Absolutely no form of advertising is allowed. The posting of a newsletter or newsletter excerpt containing a solicitation, or clearly intended to create interest in a newsletter is considered an advertisement, even in cases of free newsletters (email or otherwise). Likewise a posting whose sole legitimate purpose is to notify people of a Web page or other on-line source (ftp site, etc.) of a for-profit business is considered an advertisement. However, inclusion of one such pointer in a signature line of an otherwise substantive, acceptable posting, or in independently posted FAQs, is not considered advertising. END CHARTER. CHARTER: soc.senior.issues Soc.senior.issues is intended to be a general discussion area for seniors. Any topic from the full range of human interests and concerns may be posted here, providing that the topic: 1) is germane to seniors, and 2) is not in the province of other soc.senior newsgroups. Discussions of societal, political, and generational issues are suitable. For example, such discussions might cover: – experiences of being a senior in a youth-oriented society; – myths about, problems of, and adjustments to aging; – family relationships and changing roles for grandparents; – the need to become caregivers for aging parents; – questions of competence in such areas as driving; – proposed and existing legislation that affects seniors; – social services in local communities; – volunteering opportunities and experiences; – employment opportunities and second careers; – historical and experiential perspectives on life, culture, society. Seniors, family caregivers, and professionals in the field are all encouraged to post to the group and help make it a pleasant place to be. Thoughtful and civil … read more »
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group soc.senior.health+fitness unmoderated group soc.senior.issues unmoderated group soc.senior.marketplace Newsgroup lines: soc.senior.health+fitness Health, fitness, health-care for seniors. soc.senior.issues Issues relevant to seniors and aging. soc.senior.marketplace Ads for senior related goods and services. This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup soc.senior.* hierarchy. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. CHANGES from Previous RFD: 1. Eliminated soc.senior.re-parenting. 2. Combined soc.senior.fitness and soc.senior.health-care into soc.senior.health+fitness. 3. Revised rationales and charters as per above. 4. Eliminated material as per suggestions during 1st RFD phase. RATIONALE: all groups The term "seniors," used throughout this RFD, refers to persons of advanced years who acknowledge their status as seniors and also persons who anticipate reaching senior status and therefore are interested in those senior-related subjects that will soon become important to them. This newsgroup hierarchy is intended to fill a need for specific senior-related newsgroups not otherwise available on Usenet. Information about healthcare and medical services is available on the World Wide Web and in the various Senior Chats, but there are no topically oriented forums where seniors can get together to share experiences and concerns. One cannot fully understand aging unless one has been there. Newsgroups that discuss fitness, health, and general issues exist across Usenet, but their memberships and perspectives are predominantly youth-oriented. For example, health has very different meanings for a 30-year-old and an 80-year-old. Seniors who have decided that their continuing good health depends, in part, on maintaining a reasonably high level of physical (and mental) activity, need to know what is reasonable and expected for one’s age and condition, and which activities are best suited for them. They cannot very well ask these questions of the youngsters on an aerobics, fitness, walking, weight lifting, running or bicycling newsgroup, but they can ask questions of each other, and of concerned professionals, in their own senior-oriented newsgroups It could very well be that seniors have many of the same concerns as everyone else, but the prospect of limited remaining years makes those concerns more urgent. We’re easier marks for health fads and scams because of those concerns. That in itself is an obvious subject for discussion and warnings. A senior newsgroup hierarchy would permit seniors to have their own focussed arenas for discussion and exchange of ideas and experiences. The deliberate inclusion of the term "senior" in the name makes it possible for a senior to do a "find" on the list of all newsgroups and find something other than high school seniors. RATIONALE: soc.senior.health+fitness A senior, seeking to select and maintain a fitness program in order to gain a better quality of life or fight off the inevitable effects of aging, needs to be able to compare and evaluate the various alternatives available to the aging active person. No newsgroup of younger people can provide as good an evaluation as other seniors who know, first hand, the abilities and potential problems of seniors. The bodies that seniors have to live with are different than the body of a 30 to 45 year old person. The questions of metabolism, flexibility, coordination, weight control, nutrition, etc. when applied to older persons require special interpretation so that the information can be useful to seniors. Soc.senior.health+fitness can naturally invite comparisons of activities with respect to seniors’ age-related abilities and desired goals, which for most seniors will be different from the desired goals of younger athletes. Seniors with experience in various areas can help counsel whether limitations or prohibitions should apply. The same rationale applies to seniors concerned about maintaining general good health and providing good nutrition for themselves. As people age, their bodies change, and seniors who need to change their diets accordingly would welcome the chance to discuss this with other seniors and practitioners in the field. This newsgroup intends to provide a place on Usenet where seniors can talk to each other freely and sensitively about their health concerns, and get answers to their questions about their health and about health-care faciltiies from trained professionals or seniors experientially qualified to advise. RATIONALE: soc.senior.issues A wide variety of subjects, some generally covered in existing newsgroups, would be broached and discussed specifically as they relate to and impact on seniors. For example, parenting does not stop when children leave the nest, yet no existing groups discuss this issue from the perspective of the elderly parent or grandparent. Many seniors find that they must take care of their own aging parents in a role reversal that can be wrenching as well as difficult, while other seniors find themselves assuming the caregiver role in regard to their children’s children. Seniors need and want contact with each other to share ideas and experiences regarding these kinds of family matters. Many general issues, that have senior perspectives, are listed in the Charter of soc.senior.issues, as appropriate subjects for articles. Seniors need their own place to discuss these concerns from their own point of view. RATIONALE: soc.senior.marketplace All other groups in the soc.senior hierarchy have a prohibition against advertisments, as most subscribers do not want to have unwanted ads swamping their favorite newsgroup. However, many seniors need to be aware of various alternatives for, and gain information about, activities necessary for fitness, planning and facilities for health care, investing and planning for retirement, investigating potential retirement locations, and other matters or announcements that might be presented by commercial interests, and private or public agencies. These seniors want the opportunity to see advertisements and to have these ads available to other seniors as well, so that any volunteer advisers can evaluate and assist. Soc.senior.marketplace will also provide a place for seniors to trade with each other. CHARTER: all groups (except soc.senior.marketplace) Absolutely no form of advertising is allowed on any newsgroup other than soc.senior.marketplace. The posting of a newsletter or newsletter excerpt containing a solicitation, or clearly intended to create interest in a newsletter is considered an advertisement, even in cases of free newsletters (email or otherwise). Likewise a posting whose sole legitimate purpose is to notify people of a Web page or other on-line source (ftp site, etc.) of a for-profit business is considered an advertisement. However, inclusion of one such pointer in a signature line of an otherwise substantive, acceptable posting, or in independently posted FAQs, is not considered advertising. END CHARTER. CHARTER: soc.senior.health+fitness Soc.senior.health+fitness deals with all aspects of health and health- care that are central to the aging process, including the relationships between mental, emotional, and physical wellbeing. All subjects pertaining to mental and physical health, nutrition, health-care and health-care facilities as they pertain to seniors are suitable for this group. Some examples of appropriate topics: – information about and experiences with various kinds of health-care and health-care facilities; – discussions of the effect of mental attitude on physical well-being; – symptoms of depression and methods of treatment; – reviews of resources materials (published material, links to relevant websites and newsgroups); – general and specific coping skills for the many various illnesses associated with aging. Of course, the usual admonition is to seek professional services and not rely solely on the given advice. All activities that seniors may consider to promote fitness are suitable for discussion on this group. Some examples of appropriate topics: — aerobics, yoga, walking, running, bicycling, swimming, stationary bicycles and treadmills, weight lifting, Nautilus or Soloflex type of equipment activity, and sports of all kinds including information on senior leagues; — precautions and advice concerning potential injuries arising from participation in the above activities. Participation in the discussions by therapists and doctors is welcome. Guidelines based on previous levels of activities, conditions of health, doctor’s advice, reasonable expectations, opportunities for enjoying an activity or associated social contacts can be offered and discussed. Advertising is NOT allowed, except in soc.senior.marketplace. END CHARTER. CHARTER: soc.senior.issues Soc.senior.issues is intended to be a general discussion area for seniors. Any topic from the full range of human interests and concerns may be posted here, providing that the topic: 1) is germane to seniors, and 2) is not in the province of other soc.senior newsgroups. Discussions of societal, political, and generational issues are suitable. For example, such discussions might cover: – experiences of being a senior in a youth-oriented society; – myths about, problems of, and adjustments to aging; – family relationships and changing roles for grandparents; – the need to become caregivers for aging parents; – questions of competence in such areas as driving; – proposed and existing legislation that affects seniors; – social services in local communities; – volunteering opportunities and experiences; – employment opportunities and second careers; – historical and experiential … read more »