Yoga Strength

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Good for you. Positive thinking works miracles. Good luck. "jennifer paszkat" <jpasz…@telus.net> wrote in message

news:mrk18.34178$e4.8141790@news0.telusplanet.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Dan.your life will change. I’m sure you already know that. Just because you > have MS doesnt mean you have to stop everything, you just have to watch what > you do. I am still a musician..I always will be. I’m not going to be playing > anymore concertos or entering competitions, but I still play. For a while I > couldnt, and I felt like you did, but I bounced back. They also said I > probably wouldnt figure skate again. I’m not very good..i do a bit of > coaching and syncornized skating (my brothers the real skater in the family. > Just competed in the Canadian Figure skating championships). I took a break, > but I knew I could still do it. The first day I skated I fell all over the > placve..but had a great big grin from ear to ear. I still skate, though I > have to watch the intensity. Too much effort, and my legs go to jello. You > learn how to read your body as you go along. Don’t force yourself to do > something just cause you want to. Youll end up sicker than you can ever > imagine. Your alive..which is probably one of the best things to happen. I > found that I often took that for granted. There are many other things that > you can do with your life. I wish you all the best. Keep you chin up, and > keep askin questions…jen > "Dan Weed" <dwiedenbeck28414…@comcast.netNS> wrote in message > news:3C44B012.EAD20C4E@comcast.netNS… > > Michael wrote: > > <snip> > > > | find I can still use my legs and get on the tread mill for two miles > > > | because I can, and thank God for it too. > > > I have a suggestion here, Dan… it’s *only* a suggestion, but it’s not > > > without merit. > > Hmm, what am I to do. When summer comes I ride my mountain bike 10 to 15 > > miles three to four times a week. At least two of those rides I ride as > > hard as I can. I don’t know if I can give this high up, especially the > > off road mountain bike ride, up steep hills in the big ring as fast as > > I can. Hmm, I don’t know what to do about this. I’m not ready to give > > up hard intense mountain bike riding yet, the air high is just too good. > > But thanks, I *will* keep this in mind and bring this up to my neurologist > > on my first appointment. I don’t know if I’m ready to slow down yet. > > If so then I will have to take a really hard look at it. The way I am > > am thinking about it, mountain biking will have to be taken away from me. > > Sorry about that, I don’t know what to do… > > Thanks again, > > Dan W. > > > If you wake up and find yourself happy about the continued use of your > legs, > > > don’t set that treadmill for anything faster than a brisk walk, if even > > > that.  2 miles ought to take you at *least* 16-17 minutes to cover… a > > > steady walking pace of 3.5 mph for 20 minutes is a far more than > adequate > > > (though nothing like intensive) CV workout. > > > If you raise a real sweat, you’re working way too hard. > > > Sounds wimpy and time-wasting maybe, but you’re actually getting just as > > > much exercise as you would by running… though the way it’s spead among > > > muscle groups is different.   The main point here is that jogging or > running > > > those 2 miles will raise your body temp quite a bit… and MS takes > > > particular advantage of that, usually to your observable detriment. > > > I’ve been getting out of shape myself, though I’m still pretty mobile, > and > > > rather than hard workouts, I’ve decided to take yoga classes (started > last > > > night) to regain a little in the strength, stamina and flexibility > > > departments.   I used to use yoga as part of my athletic training when I > was > > > a kid, and IMO, you can’t beat it for getting the maximum benefit from > > > minimum sweat. > > > Even having been quite serious about it in the past, I have to admit I’m > > > very glad I enrolled in the beginner’s class.  <G> > > > — > > > Michael <<muirh…@island.net>> > > > Peace is not the absence of war, but the universal presence of justice.

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Dan Take a look at the MRI plates by looking at an acute angle and note any red crayon marks usually  little circles. Those will be the lesions. That talk about the "periventricular white matter" is very very typical of MS. Did they find any in the "Corpus collusium"? A lesion in this area has been proven to cause cognitive word problems. Sound just like my 1st MRI. I am sure the neurologist is going to discuss with you treatment options. Jack . . "Dan Weed" <dwiedenbeck28414…@comcast.netNS> wrote in message

news:3C44A4D8.6CCD5729@comcast.netNS… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sorry for the panic. I shouldn’t do that. I have my report in front of me and > I don’t understand what it means. If I had a scanner I would post it, but I > don’t feel like typing it. My doctor says I have "possible MS". Well I can tell > you what my body says and it says MS. My doctor doesn’t think I have the > progressive form and says that I can live with it. This is great news when I > was thinking in a week or two I would be in a wheel chair or worse. > Now I have to wait until the 28th for my first appointment with a neurologist > and then I can go over all the scans. I have them here but all I see is an > empty head with a squirrel running in a wheel! hee hee! > The MRI report does say I have "multiple round to oval shaped hyperintense > lesions at the periventricular white matter". What ever that means, what do I > know, I’m just a guitar player, wait, not any more, I’m just a designer. > Anyway, thanks to everyone on this NG for helping me get through the darkest > days of my life. Soon the divorce will be done and I will have that stress > out of my life. Then I can start to rebuild my life and health. > Dan W. > Shred on, if you can… > Dan Weed wrote: > > Hi, > > I had my MRI done last friday. I called my doctor’s office this morning and > > they said to call back Wednesday for the results. Well I just got a call from > > my doctor’s office and they want me to come in tomorrow for the results. The > > call came at 6:00pm. They close at 5:00pm I think. Anyway, I have known my > > doctor for 15 years and I NEVER got a call at home from his office especially > > when they are closed to come in for the results of a test I had them do. > > This sounds like some really bad news, I don’t know. > > My engineer at work wants me to get this hot job done for him tomorrow. > > I can’t wait to see the look on his face when I tell him that I have a > > doctors appointment at 11:00am and it will have to wait until the next > > day. There is justice in this world. > > I can type, but it’s very hard to do with my left hand. I can play my guitar > > but switching chords and some songs I wrote are very hard to play. My fingers > > on my left hand feel like I have a one pound weight on each of them when I > > play. My left hand and fingers are soooo numb it hurts a little. My legs > > around my knees are numb, my feet are a little numb, my left arm is numb. > > I do have my balance so I run on the tread mill every morning for at > > least 20 minutes. I am very grateful that I can still do this, for now > > that is. I decided to lose weight, this may be the last time in my life > > that I will be able to lose weight. I plan to get down to 130 lbs. I have > > about 12 to 14 lbs to go. I plan to eat right, take care of my body and > > all of that. If I go down, I will go down fighting, kicking and screaming. > > I don’t give up that easy. > > Regards, > > Dan W. > > Shred on, if you can…

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> | I started an ms yoga class last week. We did chair yoga that consisted of > arm, > | leg, and head poses plus visual movements. I was so surprised to find my > balance > | much worse when I stood to leave. I know my vision is somehow connected to > the > | balance problem but didn’t expect simple chair poses to temporarily worsen > | things. > I know what you mean, Carole… a couple of the postures we covered last > night call for closed eyes.  I have brainstem and leg-proprioception > problems that make my sight pretty important to balance when I stand, and > standing with my eyes closed is weird and sometimes very difficult.  Motion > while standing with eyes closed is *not* a good plan in my case.

I also have brainstem & proprioception problems & could have written your paragraph. > The instructor told me that keeping my eyes open shouldn’t change anything > really, just that the distracing input might make concentration on subtle > sensation a little more of a challenge, so I should just go right ahead and > open my eyes, and be prepared to work a little harder at feeling my body. > Works for me.  <G> > Similarly, maybe with poses that require frequent or constant change of head > position, you could find a spot to focus your gaze on so you have a visual > reference to aid with your sense of balance.   I guess it goes without > saying that if you’re having trouble with balance that’s caused by inner ear > or proprioceptive deficits, you probably shouldn’t be swinging your eyes > wildly around if you can help it… it’ll just disorient you.

She had us focus on a spot in front of us and slowly turn our heads from one shoulder to the other. I had found on my own that focusing on a small spot straight out in the distance improves my balance. Lightly touching anything also helps. The problem is I can’t be looking into the distance all the time nor am I always near something to tough. The light touch doesn’t always work and then I’m down on the floor. Carole – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> — > Michael <<muirh…@island.net>> > Peace is not the absence of war, but the universal presence of justice.

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Dan.your life will change. I’m sure you already know that. Just because you have MS doesnt mean you have to stop everything, you just have to watch what you do. I am still a musician..I always will be. I’m not going to be playing anymore concertos or entering competitions, but I still play. For a while I couldnt, and I felt like you did, but I bounced back. They also said I probably wouldnt figure skate again. I’m not very good..i do a bit of coaching and syncornized skating (my brothers the real skater in the family. Just competed in the Canadian Figure skating championships). I took a break, but I knew I could still do it. The first day I skated I fell all over the placve..but had a great big grin from ear to ear. I still skate, though I have to watch the intensity. Too much effort, and my legs go to jello. You learn how to read your body as you go along. Don’t force yourself to do something just cause you want to. Youll end up sicker than you can ever imagine. Your alive..which is probably one of the best things to happen. I found that I often took that for granted. There are many other things that you can do with your life. I wish you all the best. Keep you chin up, and keep askin questions…jen "Dan Weed" <dwiedenbeck28414…@comcast.netNS> wrote in message

news:3C44B012.EAD20C4E@comcast.netNS… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Michael wrote: > <snip> > > | find I can still use my legs and get on the tread mill for two miles > > | because I can, and thank God for it too. > > I have a suggestion here, Dan… it’s *only* a suggestion, but it’s not > > without merit. > Hmm, what am I to do. When summer comes I ride my mountain bike 10 to 15 > miles three to four times a week. At least two of those rides I ride as > hard as I can. I don’t know if I can give this high up, especially the > off road mountain bike ride, up steep hills in the big ring as fast as > I can. Hmm, I don’t know what to do about this. I’m not ready to give > up hard intense mountain bike riding yet, the air high is just too good. > But thanks, I *will* keep this in mind and bring this up to my neurologist > on my first appointment. I don’t know if I’m ready to slow down yet. > If so then I will have to take a really hard look at it. The way I am > am thinking about it, mountain biking will have to be taken away from me. > Sorry about that, I don’t know what to do… > Thanks again, > Dan W. > > If you wake up and find yourself happy about the continued use of your legs, > > don’t set that treadmill for anything faster than a brisk walk, if even > > that.  2 miles ought to take you at *least* 16-17 minutes to cover… a > > steady walking pace of 3.5 mph for 20 minutes is a far more than adequate > > (though nothing like intensive) CV workout. > > If you raise a real sweat, you’re working way too hard. > > Sounds wimpy and time-wasting maybe, but you’re actually getting just as > > much exercise as you would by running… though the way it’s spead among > > muscle groups is different.   The main point here is that jogging or running > > those 2 miles will raise your body temp quite a bit… and MS takes > > particular advantage of that, usually to your observable detriment. > > I’ve been getting out of shape myself, though I’m still pretty mobile, and > > rather than hard workouts, I’ve decided to take yoga classes (started last > > night) to regain a little in the strength, stamina and flexibility > > departments.   I used to use yoga as part of my athletic training when I was > > a kid, and IMO, you can’t beat it for getting the maximum benefit from > > minimum sweat. > > Even having been quite serious about it in the past, I have to admit I’m > > very glad I enrolled in the beginner’s class.  <G> > > — > > Michael <<muirh…@island.net>> > > Peace is not the absence of war, but the universal presence of justice.

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Sorry for the panic. I shouldn’t do that. I have my report in front of me and I don’t understand what it means. If I had a scanner I would post it, but I don’t feel like typing it. My doctor says I have "possible MS". Well I can tell you what my body says and it says MS. My doctor doesn’t think I have the progressive form and says that I can live with it. This is great news when I was thinking in a week or two I would be in a wheel chair or worse. Now I have to wait until the 28th for my first appointment with a neurologist and then I can go over all the scans. I have them here but all I see is an empty head with a squirrel running in a wheel! hee hee! The MRI report does say I have "multiple round to oval shaped hyperintense lesions at the periventricular white matter". What ever that means, what do I know, I’m just a guitar player, wait, not any more, I’m just a designer. Anyway, thanks to everyone on this NG for helping me get through the darkest days of my life. Soon the divorce will be done and I will have that stress out of my life. Then I can start to rebuild my life and health. Dan W. Shred on, if you can… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dan Weed wrote: > Hi, > I had my MRI done last friday. I called my doctor’s office this morning and > they said to call back Wednesday for the results. Well I just got a call from > my doctor’s office and they want me to come in tomorrow for the results. The > call came at 6:00pm. They close at 5:00pm I think. Anyway, I have known my > doctor for 15 years and I NEVER got a call at home from his office especially > when they are closed to come in for the results of a test I had them do. > This sounds like some really bad news, I don’t know. > My engineer at work wants me to get this hot job done for him tomorrow. > I can’t wait to see the look on his face when I tell him that I have a > doctors appointment at 11:00am and it will have to wait until the next > day. There is justice in this world. > I can type, but it’s very hard to do with my left hand. I can play my guitar > but switching chords and some songs I wrote are very hard to play. My fingers > on my left hand feel like I have a one pound weight on each of them when I > play. My left hand and fingers are soooo numb it hurts a little. My legs > around my knees are numb, my feet are a little numb, my left arm is numb. > I do have my balance so I run on the tread mill every morning for at > least 20 minutes. I am very grateful that I can still do this, for now > that is. I decided to lose weight, this may be the last time in my life > that I will be able to lose weight. I plan to get down to 130 lbs. I have > about 12 to 14 lbs to go. I plan to eat right, take care of my body and > all of that. If I go down, I will go down fighting, kicking and screaming. > I don’t give up that easy. > Regards, > Dan W. > Shred on, if you can…

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Hi Dan; Please don’t feel you have to apologize for panicking. It’s certainly justified — and we’ve mostly all experienced what you’re going through. I think when the folks are saying "Try not to panic," it’s to help you gain a little bit of comfort and calmness, not because we don’t want to hear it. Also, you may not have lost your guitar-ability totally. Kudos to you for modifying your tunes to suit your current needs! But you may find that over time, a lot of your dexterity may come back. Sometimes the brain can do a pretty decent job of rewiring, but fine motor skills take more time to relearn. (You will relearn them quickly, since you already learned them once. That information is stored.) Rest when you need to; maybe dig up an old book of technique exercises, those helped me come back after I had lost my R.H. coordination completely. Now I just have sensory problems there when I’m tired, and those I can live with. Good luck at the neuro’s office! Best to you, Basia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dan Weed <dwiedenbeck28414…@comcast.netNS> wrote in message <news:3C44A4D8.6CCD5729@comcast.netNS>… > Sorry for the panic. I shouldn’t do that. I have my report in front of me and > I don’t understand what it means. If I had a scanner I would post it, but I > don’t feel like typing it. My doctor says I have "possible MS". Well I can tell > you what my body says and it says MS. My doctor doesn’t think I have the > progressive form and says that I can live with it. This is great news when I > was thinking in a week or two I would be in a wheel chair or worse. > Now I have to wait until the 28th for my first appointment with a neurologist > and then I can go over all the scans. I have them here but all I see is an > empty head with a squirrel running in a wheel! hee hee! > The MRI report does say I have "multiple round to oval shaped hyperintense > lesions at the periventricular white matter". What ever that means, what do I > know, I’m just a guitar player, wait, not any more, I’m just a designer. > Anyway, thanks to everyone on this NG for helping me get through the darkest > days of my life. Soon the divorce will be done and I will have that stress > out of my life. Then I can start to rebuild my life and health. > Dan W. > Shred on, if you can… > Dan Weed wrote: > > Hi, > > I had my MRI done last friday. I called my doctor’s office this morning and > > they said to call back Wednesday for the results. Well I just got a call from > > my doctor’s office and they want me to come in tomorrow for the results. The > > call came at 6:00pm. They close at 5:00pm I think. Anyway, I have known my > > doctor for 15 years and I NEVER got a call at home from his office especially > > when they are closed to come in for the results of a test I had them do. > > This sounds like some really bad news, I don’t know. > > My engineer at work wants me to get this hot job done for him tomorrow. > > I can’t wait to see the look on his face when I tell him that I have a > > doctors appointment at 11:00am and it will have to wait until the next > > day. There is justice in this world. > > I can type, but it’s very hard to do with my left hand. I can play my guitar > > but switching chords and some songs I wrote are very hard to play. My fingers > > on my left hand feel like I have a one pound weight on each of them when I > > play. My left hand and fingers are soooo numb it hurts a little. My legs > > around my knees are numb, my feet are a little numb, my left arm is numb. > > I do have my balance so I run on the tread mill every morning for at > > least 20 minutes. I am very grateful that I can still do this, for now > > that is. I decided to lose weight, this may be the last time in my life > > that I will be able to lose weight. I plan to get down to 130 lbs. I have > > about 12 to 14 lbs to go. I plan to eat right, take care of my body and > > all of that. If I go down, I will go down fighting, kicking and screaming. > > I don’t give up that easy. > > Regards, > > Dan W. > > Shred on, if you can…

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Well… you’re probably not doing yourself any actual damage by heating youself up like that, Dan… it’s just that if you have any MS symptoms on the go, chances are pretty good they’ll get worse while you’re overheated, and possibly stay that way for a little while (often an hour or less, but sometimes many hours) after you cool down. This is "true in general", but it’s a long way from being universal, which is why I mention this only as a suggestion.   Just something to keep in mind, or maybe to try out and see if it helps. — Michael <<muirh…@island.net>> Peace is not the absence of war, but the universal presence of justice. — Michael <<muirh…@island.net>> Peace is not the absence of war, but the universal presence of justice. "Dan Weed" <dwiedenbeck28414…@comcast.netNS> wrote in message

news:3C44B012.EAD20C4E@comcast.netNS… | | | Michael wrote:

| | <snip> | | > | find I can still use my legs and get on the tread mill for two miles | > | because I can, and thank God for it too. | > | > I have a suggestion here, Dan… it’s *only* a suggestion, but it’s not | > without merit. | | Hmm, what am I to do. When summer comes I ride my mountain bike 10 to 15 | miles three to four times a week. At least two of those rides I ride as | hard as I can. I don’t know if I can give this high up, especially the | off road mountain bike ride, up steep hills in the big ring as fast as | I can. Hmm, I don’t know what to do about this. I’m not ready to give | up hard intense mountain bike riding yet, the air high is just too good. | | But thanks, I *will* keep this in mind and bring this up to my neurologist | on my first appointment. I don’t know if I’m ready to slow down yet. | If so then I will have to take a really hard look at it. The way I am | am thinking about it, mountain biking will have to be taken away from me. | | Sorry about that, I don’t know what to do… | | Thanks again, | | Dan W. | | > If you wake up and find yourself happy about the continued use of your legs, | > don’t set that treadmill for anything faster than a brisk walk, if even | > that.  2 miles ought to take you at *least* 16-17 minutes to cover… a | > steady walking pace of 3.5 mph for 20 minutes is a far more than adequate | > (though nothing like intensive) CV workout. | > | > If you raise a real sweat, you’re working way too hard. | > | > Sounds wimpy and time-wasting maybe, but you’re actually getting just as | > much exercise as you would by running… though the way it’s spead among | > muscle groups is different.   The main point here is that jogging or running | > those 2 miles will raise your body temp quite a bit… and MS takes | > particular advantage of that, usually to your observable detriment. | > | > I’ve been getting out of shape myself, though I’m still pretty mobile, and | > rather than hard workouts, I’ve decided to take yoga classes (started last | > night) to regain a little in the strength, stamina and flexibility | > departments.   I used to use yoga as part of my athletic training when I was | > a kid, and IMO, you can’t beat it for getting the maximum benefit from | > minimum sweat. | > | > Even having been quite serious about it in the past, I have to admit I’m | > very glad I enrolled in the beginner’s class.  <G> | > — | > Michael <<muirh…@island.net>> | > Peace is not the absence of war, but the universal presence of justice.

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"Carole Ford" <cf…@ftconnect.com> wrote in message

news:3C44B3BA.F5C280F4@ftconnect.com… | Michael wrote:

| | > I’ve been getting out of shape myself, though I’m still pretty mobile, and | > rather than hard workouts, I’ve decided to take yoga classes (started last | > night) to regain a little in the strength, stamina and flexibility | > departments.   I used to use yoga as part of my athletic training when I was | > a kid, and IMO, you can’t beat it for getting the maximum benefit from | > minimum sweat. | | I started an ms yoga class last week. We did chair yoga that consisted of arm, | leg, and head poses plus visual movements. I was so surprised to find my balance | much worse when I stood to leave. I know my vision is somehow connected to the | balance problem but didn’t expect simple chair poses to temporarily worsen | things. I know what you mean, Carole… a couple of the postures we covered last night call for closed eyes.  I have brainstem and leg-proprioception problems that make my sight pretty important to balance when I stand, and standing with my eyes closed is weird and sometimes very difficult.  Motion while standing with eyes closed is *not* a good plan in my case. The instructor told me that keeping my eyes open shouldn’t change anything really, just that the distracing input might make concentration on subtle sensation a little more of a challenge, so I should just go right ahead and open my eyes, and be prepared to work a little harder at feeling my body. Works for me.  <G> Similarly, maybe with poses that require frequent or constant change of head position, you could find a spot to focus your gaze on so you have a visual reference to aid with your sense of balance.   I guess it goes without saying that if you’re having trouble with balance that’s caused by inner ear or proprioceptive deficits, you probably shouldn’t be swinging your eyes wildly around if you can help it… it’ll just disorient you. — Michael <<muirh…@island.net>> Peace is not the absence of war, but the universal presence of justice.

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Mona wrote: > A lot of us have gotten that call!  With the extensive waiting many have had > to do after their MRI, you (and I!) fall into a group of lucky folks > actually.

I know I am lucky, I may play guitar like garbage now but I can still run on the tread mill. Every morning is a new day for me now. Now when I wake up I find I can still use my legs and get on the tread mill for two miles because I can, and thank God for it too. Sorry for being so selfish when I know there are people with MS that are far worse than I am and also have to wait so long for an MRI. >  I know it does not seem lucky but to have a close to definite > answer is such an evasive thing for some to get.  But tomorrow you will know > what is up.  I went into dr., was sent to an ENT, who wanted an MRI, did the > MRI, results back, called in kind of like you (only they wanted to see me > NOW- i.e. asap!).  It was less than a week. from the first dr. visit!  Take > it easy and email or post what the news is when you feel up to it.  For > tonight, (((((HUGS))))).  I know you are probably stressing!

Ok, I’m not used to this (((((HUGS))))) thing but I will take one, especially from the single ladies, wait, I’m not divorced yet. Never mind, just kidding. Dan W. Shred on, if you can… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> — > Laura aka Mona aka Boopsie Barfbrain, > Wife of Poopsie Sr. > Mom to  Poopsie, Jr. and Lumpy > Queen of the Mercury Amalgam Aspartame Multiple Sclerosis Society > "Dan Weed" <dwiedenbeck28414…@comcast.netNS> wrote in message > news:3C436D1F.D10C8C04@comcast.netNS… > > Hi, > > I had my MRI done last friday. I called my doctor’s office this morning > and > > they said to call back Wednesday for the results. Well I just got a call > from > > my doctor’s office and they want me to come in tomorrow for the results. > The > > call came at 6:00pm. They close at 5:00pm I think. Anyway, I have known my > > doctor for 15 years and I NEVER got a call at home from his office > especially > > when they are closed to come in for the results of a test I had them do. > > This sounds like some really bad news, I don’t know. > > My engineer at work wants me to get this hot job done for him tomorrow. > > I can’t wait to see the look on his face when I tell him that I have a > > doctors appointment at 11:00am and it will have to wait until the next > > day. There is justice in this world. > > I can type, but it’s very hard to do with my left hand. I can play my > guitar > > but switching chords and some songs I wrote are very hard to play. My > fingers > > on my left hand feel like I have a one pound weight on each of them when I > > play. My left hand and fingers are soooo numb it hurts a little. My legs > > around my knees are numb, my feet are a little numb, my left arm is numb. > > I do have my balance so I run on the tread mill every morning for at > > least 20 minutes. I am very grateful that I can still do this, for now > > that is. I decided to lose weight, this may be the last time in my life > > that I will be able to lose weight. I plan to get down to 130 lbs. I have > > about 12 to 14 lbs to go. I plan to eat right, take care of my body and > > all of that. If I go down, I will go down fighting, kicking and screaming. > > I don’t give up that easy. > > Regards, > > Dan W. > > Shred on, if you can…

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Michael wrote: > I’ve been getting out of shape myself, though I’m still pretty mobile, and > rather than hard workouts, I’ve decided to take yoga classes (started last > night) to regain a little in the strength, stamina and flexibility > departments.   I used to use yoga as part of my athletic training when I was > a kid, and IMO, you can’t beat it for getting the maximum benefit from > minimum sweat.

I started an ms yoga class last week. We did chair yoga that consisted of arm, leg, and head poses plus visual movements. I was so surprised to find my balance much worse when I stood to leave. I know my vision is somehow connected to the balance problem but didn’t expect simple chair poses to temporarily worsen things. Carole – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Even having been quite serious about it in the past, I have to admit I’m > very glad I enrolled in the beginner’s class.  <G> > — > Michael <<muirh…@island.net>> > Peace is not the absence of war, but the universal presence of justice.

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Michael wrote:

<snip> > | find I can still use my legs and get on the tread mill for two miles > | because I can, and thank God for it too. > I have a suggestion here, Dan… it’s *only* a suggestion, but it’s not > without merit.

Hmm, what am I to do. When summer comes I ride my mountain bike 10 to 15 miles three to four times a week. At least two of those rides I ride as hard as I can. I don’t know if I can give this high up, especially the off road mountain bike ride, up steep hills in the big ring as fast as I can. Hmm, I don’t know what to do about this. I’m not ready to give up hard intense mountain bike riding yet, the air high is just too good. But thanks, I *will* keep this in mind and bring this up to my neurologist on my first appointment. I don’t know if I’m ready to slow down yet. If so then I will have to take a really hard look at it. The way I am am thinking about it, mountain biking will have to be taken away from me. Sorry about that, I don’t know what to do… Thanks again, Dan W. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If you wake up and find yourself happy about the continued use of your legs, > don’t set that treadmill for anything faster than a brisk walk, if even > that.  2 miles ought to take you at *least* 16-17 minutes to cover… a > steady walking pace of 3.5 mph for 20 minutes is a far more than adequate > (though nothing like intensive) CV workout. > If you raise a real sweat, you’re working way too hard. > Sounds wimpy and time-wasting maybe, but you’re actually getting just as > much exercise as you would by running… though the way it’s spead among > muscle groups is different.   The main point here is that jogging or running > those 2 miles will raise your body temp quite a bit… and MS takes > particular advantage of that, usually to your observable detriment. > I’ve been getting out of shape myself, though I’m still pretty mobile, and > rather than hard workouts, I’ve decided to take yoga classes (started last > night) to regain a little in the strength, stamina and flexibility > departments.   I used to use yoga as part of my athletic training when I was > a kid, and IMO, you can’t beat it for getting the maximum benefit from > minimum sweat. > Even having been quite serious about it in the past, I have to admit I’m > very glad I enrolled in the beginner’s class.  <G> > — > Michael <<muirh…@island.net>> > Peace is not the absence of war, but the universal presence of justice.

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"Dan Weed" <dwiedenbeck28414…@comcast.netNS> wrote in message

news:3C449E20.A5BE5F4D@comcast.netNS… | | | Mona wrote:

| > | > A lot of us have gotten that call!  With the extensive waiting many have had | > to do after their MRI, you (and I!) fall into a group of lucky folks | > actually. | | I know I am lucky, I may play guitar like garbage now but I can still run on | the tread mill. Every morning is a new day for me now. Now when I wake up I | find I can still use my legs and get on the tread mill for two miles | because I can, and thank God for it too. I have a suggestion here, Dan… it’s *only* a suggestion, but it’s not without merit. If you wake up and find yourself happy about the continued use of your legs, don’t set that treadmill for anything faster than a brisk walk, if even that.  2 miles ought to take you at *least* 16-17 minutes to cover… a steady walking pace of 3.5 mph for 20 minutes is a far more than adequate (though nothing like intensive) CV workout. If you raise a real sweat, you’re working way too hard. Sounds wimpy and time-wasting maybe, but you’re actually getting just as much exercise as you would by running… though the way it’s spead among muscle groups is different.   The main point here is that jogging or running those 2 miles will raise your body temp quite a bit… and MS takes particular advantage of that, usually to your observable detriment. I’ve been getting out of shape myself, though I’m still pretty mobile, and rather than hard workouts, I’ve decided to take yoga classes (started last night) to regain a little in the strength, stamina and flexibility departments.   I used to use yoga as part of my athletic training when I was a kid, and IMO, you can’t beat it for getting the maximum benefit from minimum sweat. Even having been quite serious about it in the past, I have to admit I’m very glad I enrolled in the beginner’s class.  <G> — Michael <<muirh…@island.net>> Peace is not the absence of war, but the universal presence of justice.

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Dan! Don’t panic….could be that he just wants to go over the films w/ you in person…you know, show you your brains and stuff Hang in there and let us know. hee hee for the engineer )) Rhonda On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:42:40 GMT, Dan Weed – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<dwiedenbeck28414…@comcast.netNS> wrote: >Hi, >I had my MRI done last friday. I called my doctor’s office this morning and >they said to call back Wednesday for the results. Well I just got a call from >my doctor’s office and they want me to come in tomorrow for the results. The >call came at 6:00pm. They close at 5:00pm I think. Anyway, I have known my >doctor for 15 years and I NEVER got a call at home from his office especially >when they are closed to come in for the results of a test I had them do. >This sounds like some really bad news, I don’t know. >My engineer at work wants me to get this hot job done for him tomorrow. >I can’t wait to see the look on his face when I tell him that I have a >doctors appointment at 11:00am and it will have to wait until the next >day. There is justice in this world. >I can type, but it’s very hard to do with my left hand. I can play my guitar >but switching chords and some songs I wrote are very hard to play. My fingers >on my left hand feel like I have a one pound weight on each of them when I >play. My left hand and fingers are soooo numb it hurts a little. My legs >around my knees are numb, my feet are a little numb, my left arm is numb. >I do have my balance so I run on the tread mill every morning for at >least 20 minutes. I am very grateful that I can still do this, for now >that is. I decided to lose weight, this may be the last time in my life >that I will be able to lose weight. I plan to get down to 130 lbs. I have >about 12 to 14 lbs to go. I plan to eat right, take care of my body and >all of that. If I go down, I will go down fighting, kicking and screaming. >I don’t give up that easy. >Regards, >Dan W. >Shred on, if you can…

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Hi Dan, I know what you mean about the *weird* phone call from the  doctor’s office. I received mine on a Sunday afternoon. I thought it odd that I was getting the phone call from the office when I looked at my caller ID. He said "Hi Susan I looked at the report just now that came in from your cervical MRI and it looks very much like MS I am sending you in on Tuesday for a cranial MRI so we can see what is going on"..Cranial MRI done and another phone call, Hi, you do have MS. At lease your doctor is having you come in….and at least you are prepared for a dx. I had no idea, I thought that I had hurt my neck. So, this was a big shock, a phone call and my life changed. Good luck to ya, And let us know what happens….. | |Hi, | |I had my MRI done last friday. I called my doctor’s office this morning and |they said to call back Wednesday for the results. Well I just got a call from |my doctor’s office and they want me to come in tomorrow for the results. The |call came at 6:00pm. They close at 5:00pm I think. Anyway, I have known my |doctor for 15 years and I NEVER got a call at home from his office especially |when they are closed to come in for the results of a test I had them do. |This sounds like some really bad news, I don’t know. | |My engineer at work wants me to get this hot job done for him tomorrow. |I can’t wait to see the look on his face when I tell him that I have a |doctors appointment at 11:00am and it will have to wait until the next |day. There is justice in this world. | |I can type, but it’s very hard to do with my left hand. I can play my guitar |but switching chords and some songs I wrote are very hard to play. My fingers |on my left hand feel like I have a one pound weight on each of them when I |play. My left hand and fingers are soooo numb it hurts a little. My legs |around my knees are numb, my feet are a little numb, my left arm is numb. | |I do have my balance so I run on the tread mill every morning for at |least 20 minutes. I am very grateful that I can still do this, for now |that is. I decided to lose weight, this may be the last time in my life |that I will be able to lose weight. I plan to get down to 130 lbs. I have |about 12 to 14 lbs to go. I plan to eat right, take care of my body and |all of that. If I go down, I will go down fighting, kicking and screaming. |I don’t give up that easy. | |Regards, | |Dan W. | |Shred on, if you can… — Susan If we weren’t all crazy we would all go insane…… Jimmy Buffet

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Danny boy, You will have to let us all know how the Dr.’s appt goes.  Good Luck. Dora – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dan Weed wrote: > Hi, > I had my MRI done last friday. I called my doctor’s office this morning and > they said to call back Wednesday for the results. Well I just got a call from > my doctor’s office and they want me to come in tomorrow for the results. The > call came at 6:00pm. They close at 5:00pm I think. Anyway, I have known my > doctor for 15 years and I NEVER got a call at home from his office especially > when they are closed to come in for the results of a test I had them do. > This sounds like some really bad news, I don’t know. > My engineer at work wants me to get this hot job done for him tomorrow. > I can’t wait to see the look on his face when I tell him that I have a > doctors appointment at 11:00am and it will have to wait until the next > day. There is justice in this world. > I can type, but it’s very hard to do with my left hand. I can play my guitar > but switching chords and some songs I wrote are very hard to play. My fingers > on my left hand feel like I have a one pound weight on each of them when I > play. My left hand and fingers are soooo numb it hurts a little. My legs > around my knees are numb, my feet are a little numb, my left arm is numb. > I do have my balance so I run on the tread mill every morning for at > least 20 minutes. I am very grateful that I can still do this, for now > that is. I decided to lose weight, this may be the last time in my life > that I will be able to lose weight. I plan to get down to 130 lbs. I have > about 12 to 14 lbs to go. I plan to eat right, take care of my body and > all of that. If I go down, I will go down fighting, kicking and screaming. > I don’t give up that easy. > Regards, > Dan W. > Shred on, if you can…

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A lot of us have gotten that call!  With the extensive waiting many have had to do after their MRI, you (and I!) fall into a group of lucky folks actually.  I know it does not seem lucky but to have a close to definite answer is such an evasive thing for some to get.  But tomorrow you will know what is up.  I went into dr., was sent to an ENT, who wanted an MRI, did the MRI, results back, called in kind of like you (only they wanted to see me NOW- i.e. asap!).  It was less than a week. from the first dr. visit!  Take it easy and email or post what the news is when you feel up to it.  For tonight, (((((HUGS))))).  I know you are probably stressing! — Laura aka Mona aka Boopsie Barfbrain, Wife of Poopsie Sr. Mom to  Poopsie, Jr. and Lumpy Queen of the Mercury Amalgam Aspartame Multiple Sclerosis Society "Dan Weed" <dwiedenbeck28414…@comcast.netNS> wrote in message

news:3C436D1F.D10C8C04@comcast.netNS… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > I had my MRI done last friday. I called my doctor’s office this morning and > they said to call back Wednesday for the results. Well I just got a call from > my doctor’s office and they want me to come in tomorrow for the results. The > call came at 6:00pm. They close at 5:00pm I think. Anyway, I have known my > doctor for 15 years and I NEVER got a call at home from his office especially > when they are closed to come in for the results of a test I had them do. > This sounds like some really bad news, I don’t know. > My engineer at work wants me to get this hot job done for him tomorrow. > I can’t wait to see the look on his face when I tell him that I have a > doctors appointment at 11:00am and it will have to wait until the next > day. There is justice in this world. > I can type, but it’s very hard to do with my left hand. I can play my guitar > but switching chords and some songs I wrote are very hard to play. My fingers > on my left hand feel like I have a one pound weight on each of them when I > play. My left hand and fingers are soooo numb it hurts a little. My legs > around my knees are numb, my feet are a little numb, my left arm is numb. > I do have my balance so I run on the tread mill every morning for at > least 20 minutes. I am very grateful that I can still do this, for now > that is. I decided to lose weight, this may be the last time in my life > that I will be able to lose weight. I plan to get down to 130 lbs. I have > about 12 to 14 lbs to go. I plan to eat right, take care of my body and > all of that. If I go down, I will go down fighting, kicking and screaming. > I don’t give up that easy. > Regards, > Dan W. > Shred on, if you can…

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Either think the worst then it can only get better. Or don’t worry until you;re told something bad.  Which ever suits you best.  Not knowing is always the worst bit. Roarke "Dan Weed" <dwiedenbeck28414…@comcast.netNS> wrote in message

news:3C436D1F.D10C8C04@comcast.netNS… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > I had my MRI done last friday. I called my doctor’s office this morning and > they said to call back Wednesday for the results. Well I just got a call from > my doctor’s office and they want me to come in tomorrow for the results. The > call came at 6:00pm. They close at 5:00pm I think. Anyway, I have known my > doctor for 15 years and I NEVER got a call at home from his office especially > when they are closed to come in for the results of a test I had them do. > This sounds like some really bad news, I don’t know. > My engineer at work wants me to get this hot job done for him tomorrow. > I can’t wait to see the look on his face when I tell him that I have a > doctors appointment at 11:00am and it will have to wait until the next > day. There is justice in this world. > I can type, but it’s very hard to do with my left hand. I can play my guitar > but switching chords and some songs I wrote are very hard to play. My fingers > on my left hand feel like I have a one pound weight on each of them when I > play. My left hand and fingers are soooo numb it hurts a little. My legs > around my knees are numb, my feet are a little numb, my left arm is numb. > I do have my balance so I run on the tread mill every morning for at > least 20 minutes. I am very grateful that I can still do this, for now > that is. I decided to lose weight, this may be the last time in my life > that I will be able to lose weight. I plan to get down to 130 lbs. I have > about 12 to 14 lbs to go. I plan to eat right, take care of my body and > all of that. If I go down, I will go down fighting, kicking and screaming. > I don’t give up that easy. > Regards, > Dan W. > Shred on, if you can…

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Dan Good Luck and try not to worry. Gloria "Dan Weed" <dwiedenbeck28414…@comcast.netNS> wrote in message

news:3C436D1F.D10C8C04@comcast.netNS… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > I had my MRI done last friday. I called my doctor’s office this morning and > they said to call back Wednesday for the results. Well I just got a call from > my doctor’s office and they want me to come in tomorrow for the results. The > call came at 6:00pm. They close at 5:00pm I think. Anyway, I have known my > doctor for 15 years and I NEVER got a call at home from his office especially > when they are closed to come in for the results of a test I had them do. > This sounds like some really bad news, I don’t know. > My engineer at work wants me to get this hot job done for him tomorrow. > I can’t wait to see the look on his face when I tell him that I have a > doctors appointment at 11:00am and it will have to wait until the next > day. There is justice in this world. > I can type, but it’s very hard to do with my left hand. I can play my guitar > but switching chords and some songs I wrote are very hard to play. My fingers > on my left hand feel like I have a one pound weight on each of them when I > play. My left hand and fingers are soooo numb it hurts a little. My legs > around my knees are numb, my feet are a little numb, my left arm is numb. > I do have my balance so I run on the tread mill every morning for at > least 20 minutes. I am very grateful that I can still do this, for now > that is. I decided to lose weight, this may be the last time in my life > that I will be able to lose weight. I plan to get down to 130 lbs. I have > about 12 to 14 lbs to go. I plan to eat right, take care of my body and > all of that. If I go down, I will go down fighting, kicking and screaming. > I don’t give up that easy. > Regards, > Dan W. > Shred on, if you can…

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Dan Weed <dwiedenbeck28414…@comcast.netNS> wrote: > Hi, > I had my MRI done last friday. I called my doctor’s office this morning and > they said to call back Wednesday for the results. Well I just got a call from > my doctor’s office and they want me to come in tomorrow for the results. The > call came at 6:00pm. They close at 5:00pm I think. Anyway, I have known my > doctor for 15 years and I NEVER got a call at home from his office especially > when they are closed to come in for the results of a test I had them do. > This sounds like some really bad news, I don’t know.

Dan, It may not be bad news, you never know. Last time I got an MRI done, it was my third time ever getting an MRI. The two times previous, I’d always gotten a chance to look at my films before they were shipped off to the doctor. First time, two lesions, second time, two different lesions. By the time the third MRI rolled around, I was an old pro at this. Well, the radiologist refused to allow me to see my MRIs on the third one. Scared the living daylights outta me. Normally, you’d think the only reason for refusing to let someone see their results is that they want the doc to explain the abnormalities that they can’t say anything about. Got an appointment to see the doc the following week. Called after hours to get the appointment, too. First, the doc couldn’t understand for the life of him why the radiologist wouldn’t let me see the films on my own danged brain. Especially since this was my third time, wasn’t like I was going to get shocked seeing anything new and/or different. Second? I came back with only ONE lesion! Apparently the Avonex is working! (or my body is just recovering well for no real reason, but I’m not about to question it)…  The results were BETTER than we thought they might be! Don’t sweat it until you actually see the films, Dan. It might turn out better than you think it will… Just that sometimes they don’t want to let you know what the results are because they want to explain the whole thing in person, whether it be good or bad… It’s not a death sentence. Whatever comes out of it, you will have your confirmed diagnosis. The symptoms won’t get worse or go away just because someone did a scan of your brain. And like some people, you might actually find a diagnosis to be more comforting than just plain not knowing at all. Hang in there, hon. ANd let us know, k? Cyd

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Rhonda wrote: > Dan! Don’t panic….could be that he just wants to go over the films > w/ you in person…you know, show you your brains and stuff

Sorry, I shouldn’t do that. I guess I just have a caring doctor. BTW, what does dx mean? Diagnosis? > Hang in there and let us know. > hee hee for the engineer )) > Rhonda

That’s right, put him in his place. Now I’m under the gun for tomorrow, but that’s ok, I can handle it. Dan W. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:42:40 GMT, Dan Weed > <dwiedenbeck28414…@comcast.netNS> wrote: > >Hi, > >I had my MRI done last friday. I called my doctor’s office this morning and > >they said to call back Wednesday for the results. Well I just got a call from > >my doctor’s office and they want me to come in tomorrow for the results. The > >call came at 6:00pm. They close at 5:00pm I think. Anyway, I have known my > >doctor for 15 years and I NEVER got a call at home from his office especially > >when they are closed to come in for the results of a test I had them do. > >This sounds like some really bad news, I don’t know. > >My engineer at work wants me to get this hot job done for him tomorrow. > >I can’t wait to see the look on his face when I tell him that I have a > >doctors appointment at 11:00am and it will have to wait until the next > >day. There is justice in this world. > >I can type, but it’s very hard to do with my left hand. I can play my guitar > >but switching chords and some songs I wrote are very hard to play. My fingers > >on my left hand feel like I have a one pound weight on each of them when I > >play. My left hand and fingers are soooo numb it hurts a little. My legs > >around my knees are numb, my feet are a little numb, my left arm is numb. > >I do have my balance so I run on the tread mill every morning for at > >least 20 minutes. I am very grateful that I can still do this, for now > >that is. I decided to lose weight, this may be the last time in my life > >that I will be able to lose weight. I plan to get down to 130 lbs. I have > >about 12 to 14 lbs to go. I plan to eat right, take care of my body and > >all of that. If I go down, I will go down fighting, kicking and screaming. > >I don’t give up that easy. > >Regards, > >Dan W. > >Shred on, if you can…

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Hi, I had my MRI done last friday. I called my doctor’s office this morning and they said to call back Wednesday for the results. Well I just got a call from my doctor’s office and they want me to come in tomorrow for the results. The call came at 6:00pm. They close at 5:00pm I think. Anyway, I have known my doctor for 15 years and I NEVER got a call at home from his office especially when they are closed to come in for the results of a test I had them do. This sounds like some really bad news, I don’t know. My engineer at work wants me to get this hot job done for him tomorrow. I can’t wait to see the look on his face when I tell him that I have a doctors appointment at 11:00am and it will have to wait until the next day. There is justice in this world. I can type, but it’s very hard to do with my left hand. I can play my guitar but switching chords and some songs I wrote are very hard to play. My fingers on my left hand feel like I have a one pound weight on each of them when I play. My left hand and fingers are soooo numb it hurts a little. My legs around my knees are numb, my feet are a little numb, my left arm is numb. I do have my balance so I run on the tread mill every morning for at least 20 minutes. I am very grateful that I can still do this, for now that is. I decided to lose weight, this may be the last time in my life that I will be able to lose weight. I plan to get down to 130 lbs. I have about 12 to 14 lbs to go. I plan to eat right, take care of my body and all of that. If I go down, I will go down fighting, kicking and screaming. I don’t give up that easy. Regards, Dan W. Shred on, if you can…

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