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That’s simple illogic a.k.a. father_of_yogurt a.k.a. puma, talking to himself again. Geesh! What a loser:( – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Kundalini is not symbolic Puma. Nor is hatha yoga. I guess thats why you seem to get so many things wrong. Some kind of intellectual explanation is what you are looking for to ‘explain’ Kundalini. Kundalini is an experience. Not a symbolic empty anything. Hatha yoga prepares the body and nerve currents to deal with as best as possible the ascent of Kundalini. Ascent as in an actual event – not your symbolic junk below. Dear Puma Kundalini is not a myth, people in the past and present have experienced the physical and mental effects of it on conscious plane, it is the source of energy and controlling element in human evolution, you need to study the chakras in details, you will understand resemblance of chakras with various glands (endocrine gland system) or autonomous nervous system, probably you will start believing what Mike is saying. Just because somethings can not be seen by eyes, you should never doubt its presence, can you see pure form of energy? No! but it is recognised by its various forms, such as light, sound, heat etc. the same is the case with Kundalini.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Kundalini is not symbolic Puma. Nor is hatha yoga. I guess thats why you seem to get so many things wrong. Some kind of intellectual explanation is what you are looking for to ‘explain’ Kundalini. Kundalini is an experience. Not a symbolic empty anything. Hatha yoga prepares the body and nerve currents to deal with as best as possible the ascent of Kundalini. Ascent as in an actual event – not your symbolic junk below. Dear Puma Kundalini is not a myth, people in the past and present have experienced the physical and mental effects of it on conscious plane, it is the source of energy and controlling element in human evolution, you need to study the chakras in details, you will understand resemblance of chakras with various glands (endocrine gland system) or autonomous nervous system, probably you will start believing what Mike is saying. Just because somethings can not be seen by eyes, you should never doubt its presence, can you see pure form of energy? No! but it is recognised by its various forms, such as light, sound, heat etc. the same is the case with Kundalini.

My Dear Simple Logic, Thanks for your contribution on the Kundalini subject.I have never said that it was a myth.All I have tried to give an open explanation regarding Kundalini.I have searched in many different ways on the matter and finally I recovered its real meaning.It has been known from the time of OLD EGYPT.And ever since knowledge was kept secret from ordinary people by the noble ones.And all the stories about Kundalini were to hide it from ordinary people. Actually I will try to give some more detailed info regarding it in the near future.But for the time being all I can say that, CONSCIOUSNESS and ENERGY are the two realities.When the energy realized by consciousness,then one can realize the event whatever it is.Energy is all over the body,it starts from the lowest area and can be detected at every part on the body.But consciousnes can not realizes it.Unconsciously it does but consciously  it does not know it.So when the energy is realized consciously,it means your kundalini is up! There is a Kundalini reality but it has nothing to do with the known stories.These stories are all fable type ,that is what I am saying. No one gets mad from Kundalini, and all the shakti pat stories are also not real.Shakti pat can not deliver enlightenment! But they claim other way around. Mike unfortunately does not have any actual kundalini experience, if he had it, then he would know it. He is also saying the stories to me.These stories are all allegoric, none of them reflects the reality. But believers belive them.But not the knowers. I do not belive KUNDALINI STORIES , because if one knows any event ,then he/she does not need to belive it anymore, so I do not believe as I know it, I have my experiences.But these experiences are not fable stories.As all these stories are methaphoric. The real knowers of Kundalini, does not belive,if you believe something ,that means you do not know it! But surely everybody is free to believe unless they do not want to know the truth. Take care. PUMA

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Dear Puma absolutely no problem with good discussions, only thing is that it should not involve idiots like Brother Bramhan like wild characters. surely we will discuss this..

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"But believers belive them.But not the knowers." This is the stupidest remark you have yet to make (but will not be the last).  A belief is just a fancy idea without the knowlege or the experience.  A knower is higher if he has the the realization of the experience. You see, Puma, you are worthless, you know nothing.  Yet you carry on rambling like you know something.  Your words are always misspelled, your construction of English sentences is terrible.  Do you read this shit that you write? Seriously, get a brain, get a spell checker. Swami

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Look now, Puma a.k.a simply illogic is now replying to himself between his two newsgroup accounts.  How wonderful!  Puma must be really bored, eh? Swami

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear Puma absolutely no problem with good discussions, only thing is that it should not involve idiots like Brother Bramhan like wild characters. surely we will discuss this..

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"Do you ever take some time and actually listen to this shit that you say?" – Sandra Bullock in When the Party’s Over – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – is a kind of hidden language,it has symbols,methaphors, and some secrets.This yoga is an art,symbols here can unlock the truth and lead us toward the Light.The body is the instrument by which we act out our desires and exercise our will.If we take the body under control through the discipline of Hatha Yoga and reflectionon the symbolic meaning of asanas, will also help to take the mind and emotions under control. What is discovered from the practice of asanas bocomes an enormous source of energy and inspiration to understand more.We are like a book with seven seals,we do not know who we really are,what we are. Hatha Yoga is a human science that takes into consideration bodily pains, poor posture, faulty breathing, and incorrect walking, teaching greater awareness of the body as a whole,without separating it from the mind and the influence of all senses.Here the Kundalini system has been compartmentalised, often beyond recognison.This reductionist view has prevented the achievement of the promised results. Kundalini has many branches,like a tree, and Hatha Yoga is one of them. At first a symbol is recognised only on a certain level,then it moves to other levels,according to the grasp of the user! Emotions experienced in the body are forces whose effect on either body or mind is often not understood.The symbolism that is used in the idioms and expressions of daily language plays a much greater part inlife than is usually acknowledged,it can help individuals to understand their unconscious. Therefore before going into the symbolism and reflections one can not understand what KUNDALINI is. People mostly belive occultist stories about kundalini.If one understands that all our behaviour depends on our inner energy state not the outer source,then he/she starts to understand what KUNDALINI is all about. PUMA

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Kundalini is not symbolic Puma. Nor is hatha yoga. I guess thats why you seem to get so many things wrong. Some kind of intellectual explanation is what you are looking for to ‘explain’ Kundalini. Kundalini is an experience. Not a symbolic empty anything. Hatha yoga prepares the body and nerve currents to deal with as best as possible the ascent of Kundalini. Ascent as in an actual event – not your symbolic junk below.

Dear Puma Kundalini is not a myth, people in the past and present have experienced the physical and mental effects of it on conscious plane, it is the source of energy and controlling element in human evolution, you need to study the chakras in details, you will understand resemblance of chakras with various glands (endocrine gland system) or autonomous nervous system, probably you will start believing what Mike is saying. Just because somethings can not be seen by eyes, you should never doubt its presence, can you see pure form of energy? No! but it is recognised by its various forms, such as light, sound, heat etc. the same is the case with Kundalini.

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is a kind of hidden language,it has symbols,methaphors, and some secrets.This yoga is an art,symbols here can unlock the truth and lead us toward the Light.The body is the instrument by which we act out our desires and exercise our will.If we take the body under control through the discipline of Hatha Yoga and reflectionon the symbolic meaning of asanas, will also help to take the mind and emotions under control. What is discovered from the practice of asanas bocomes an enormous source of energy and inspiration to understand more.We are like a book with seven seals,we do not know who we really are,what we are. Hatha Yoga is a human science that takes into consideration bodily pains, poor posture, faulty breathing, and incorrect walking, teaching greater awareness of the body as a whole,without separating it from the mind and the influence of all senses.Here the Kundalini system has been compartmentalised, often beyond recognison.This reductionist view has prevented the achievement of the promised results. Kundalini has many branches,like a tree, and Hatha Yoga is one of them. At first a symbol is recognised only on a certain level,then it moves to other levels,according to the grasp of the user! Emotions experienced in the body are forces whose effect on either body or mind is often not understood.The symbolism that is used in the idioms and expressions of daily language plays a much greater part inlife than is usually acknowledged,it can help individuals to understand their unconscious. Therefore before going into the symbolism and reflections one can not understand what KUNDALINI is. People mostly belive occultist stories about kundalini.If one understands that all our behaviour depends on our inner energy state not the outer source,then he/she starts to understand what KUNDALINI is all about. PUMA

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Kundalini is not symbolic Puma. Nor is hatha yoga. I guess thats why you seem to get so many things wrong. Some kind of intellectual explanation is what you are looking for to ‘explain’ Kundalini. Kundalini is an experience. Not a symbolic empty anything. Hatha yoga prepares the body and nerve currents to deal with as best as possible the ascent of Kundalini. Ascent as in an actual event – not your symbolic junk below.

is a kind of hidden language,it has symbols,methaphors, and some secrets.This yoga is an art,symbols here can unlock the truth and lead us toward the Light.The body is the instrument by which we act out our desires and exercise our will.If we take the body under control through the discipline of Hatha Yoga and reflectionon the symbolic meaning of asanas, will also help to take the mind and emotions under control.

I will reflect on the symbolic meaning of the asanas Puma. It is all in the corny phrases. Those meanings found in the asanas. The asanas are to bring understanding of energy movement Puma – I suggest trying tidly winks instead. What is discovered from the practice of asanas bocomes an enormous source of energy and inspiration to understand more.We are like a book with seven seals,we do not know who we really are,what we are. Hatha Yoga is a human science that takes into consideration bodily pains, poor posture, faulty breathing, and incorrect walking, teaching greater awareness of the body as a whole,without separating it from the mind and the influence of all senses.Here the Kundalini system has been compartmentalised, often beyond recognison.This reductionist view has prevented the achievement of the promised results.

Kundalini has many branches,like a tree, and Hatha Yoga is one of them.

You are good at corny word juxtapositions. I suggest a random number generator with a number assigned to an adjective – then you can randomly stuff unrelated adjectives together and keep everyone wondering for a long time and always have a fresh supply cause even you won’t know what combination of adjectives pop up to stick together to bewilder the reader with. Sorry, if I am not cynical this yawning will put me to sleep. At first a symbol is recognised only on a certain level,then it moves to other levels,according to the grasp of the user! Emotions experienced in the body are forces whose effect on either body or mind is often not understood.The symbolism that is used in the idioms and expressions of daily language plays a much greater part inlife than is usually acknowledged,it can help individuals to understand their unconscious. Therefore before going into the symbolism and reflections one can not understand what KUNDALINI is.

Especially you who wrongly believes it is a symbolic concept of intellectual something. Your understanding of Kundalini is symbolic Puma – it explains lots of things about your posts. I guess I should thank you for telling me what you are about. People mostly belive occultist stories about kundalini.If one understands that all our behaviour depends on our inner energy state not the outer source,then he/she starts to understand what KUNDALINI is all about.

Good joke though. Maybe someday you will get lucky. Mike Dubbeld – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – PUMA

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